cc usage stats

Dear all, and CC statisticians in particular,

It's been roughly 6 months since the last CC license use
statistics. Are 
there any new results available? I'm asking because we're
preparing a 
leaflet about CC and it would be fun to write not about 140m
licenses, 
but, let's say, 330m, or maybe 520m (I can see the potential
for a fun 
little guessing game here!).

I'll be greatful for any information for anyone
knowledgeable in these 
issues,

best,

Alek Tarkowski

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What would be great besides having the information from time
to time  
is to have a tool or that somebody could tell us how to
generate  
these statistics on our own. It seems the tool available via
open  
business is not completely accurate as it doesn't include
all countries.

Best,

León
El 25/11/2006, a las 07:55 AM, Alek Tarkowski escribió:

> Dear all, and CC statisticians in particular,
>
> It's been roughly 6 months since the last CC license
use  
> statistics. Are there any new results available? I'm
asking because  
> we're preparing a leaflet about CC and it would be fun
to write not  
> about 140m licenses, but, let's say, 330m, or maybe
520m (I can see  
> the potential for a fun little guessing game here!).
>
> I'll be greatful for any information for anyone
knowledgeable in  
> these issues,
>
> best,
>
> Alek Tarkowski
>
> -- 
> koordynator / Public Lead
> Creative Commons Polska / Poland
>
> (+48) 889 660 444
> http://creativecommons.pl
> skype:alektarkowski
>
> <alek.tarkowski.vcf>
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New statistics will be released at some point during
December.

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Alek,

Have a look at the cc stat generator by Openbusiness.cc

http://www.openbu
siness.cc/cc_stat/

grtz
BjornW

Alek Tarkowski wrote:
> Dear all, and CC statisticians in particular,
> 
> It's been roughly 6 months since the last CC license
use statistics. Are 
> there any new results available? I'm asking because
we're preparing a 
> leaflet about CC and it would be fun to write not about
140m licenses, 
> but, let's say, 330m, or maybe 520m (I can see the
potential for a fun 
> little guessing game here!).
> 
> I'll be greatful for any information for anyone
knowledgeable in these 
> issues,
> 
> best,
> 
> Alek Tarkowski
> 
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> cc-communitylists.ibiblio.org
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On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 03:30 -0600, León Felipe Sánchez
Ambía wrote:
> What would be great besides having the information from
time to time  
> is to have a tool or that somebody could tell us how to
generate  
> these statistics on our own. It seems the tool
available via open  
> business is not completely accurate as it doesn't
include all countries.

There's code the 'stats' directory of the svn repository for
https://sour
ceforge.net/projects/cctools

Would probably take a fair amount of effort and knowledge to
run, but
you're welcome to, and to submit patches. 

Note also that any single number can and will wildly
fluctuate depending
what search engine cluster(?) you might be hitting.

The numbers we've been putting out every six months are what
I believe
at the time to be lower bounds, but are still very
hand-wavy.

As I said in an earlier reply to Alek, another round will be
coming at
some point in December.  These will probably include some
jurisdiction
estimates, but these will be even more hand-wavy than the
aggregate
estimates.

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On 11/27/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 03:30 -0600, León Felipe Sánchez
Ambía wrote:
> > What would be great besides having the information
from time to time
> > is to have a tool or that somebody could tell us
how to generate
> > these statistics on our own. It seems the tool
available via open
> > business is not completely accurate as it doesn't
include all countries.
>
> There's code the 'stats' directory of the svn
repository for
> https://sour
ceforge.net/projects/cctools
>
> Would probably take a fair amount of effort and
knowledge to run, but
> you're welcome to, and to submit patches. 
>
> Note also that any single number can and will wildly
fluctuate depending
> what search engine cluster(?) you might be hitting.
>
> The numbers we've been putting out every six months are
what I believe
> at the time to be lower bounds, but are still very
hand-wavy.
>
> As I said in an earlier reply to Alek, another round
will be coming at
> some point in December.  These will probably include
some jurisdiction
> estimates, but these will be even more hand-wavy than
the aggregate
> estimates.

For the purposes of estimating percentages of license by
type (as
opposed to total # of licenses), or for the purposes of
estimating
trend in total # of licenses, have you looked at doing a
rolling
estimate from multiple sources, a la the multiple-source
political
polls at pollster.com:

http://www.pollster.com/polls/?state=VA&race=sen
ate_race

The rolling average of a number of skewed/individually
broken polls
can be quite useful for viewing trends even when the
individual
sources are known to be broken/not statistically very valid.

Luis
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On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:17 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
> For the purposes of estimating percentages of license
by type (as
> opposed to total # of licenses), or for the purposes of
estimating
> trend in total # of licenses, have you looked at doing
a rolling
> estimate from multiple sources, a la the
multiple-source political
> polls at pollster.com:

This has occurred to me.  It is very sensible and will be
implemented in
the fullness of time.

Apologies to everyone interested in this, I/we just have not
had the
bandwidth to do a really good job with stats, or rather
there are always
other priorities.  So far, interns have done most of the
work, but I
hope to have it be someone's permanent responsibility soon. 
Yes,
metrics are awfully useful, and there's lots more we could
be gathering
and analyzing in an automated fashion beyond gross license
counts.

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On 11/27/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:17 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
> > For the purposes of estimating percentages of
license by type (as
> > opposed to total # of licenses), or for the
purposes of estimating
> > trend in total # of licenses, have you looked at
doing a rolling
> > estimate from multiple sources, a la the
multiple-source political
> > polls at pollster.com:
>
> This has occurred to me.  It is very sensible and will
be implemented in
> the fullness of time.
>
> Apologies to everyone interested in this, I/we just
have not had the
> bandwidth to do a really good job with stats, or rather
there are always
> other priorities.

Completely understandable. Good luck keeping up with all
your other tasks 

Luis
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On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:34 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
> On 11/27/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:17 -0500, Luis Villa
wrote:
> > > For the purposes of estimating percentages of
license by type (as
> > > opposed to total # of licenses), or for the
purposes of estimating
> > > trend in total # of licenses, have you looked
at doing a rolling
> > > estimate from multiple sources, a la the
multiple-source political
> > > polls at pollster.com:
> >
> > This has occurred to me.  It is very sensible and
will be implemented in
> > the fullness of time.
> >
> > Apologies to everyone interested in this, I/we
just have not had the
> > bandwidth to do a really good job with stats, or
rather there are always
> > other priorities.
> 
> Completely understandable. Good luck keeping up with
all your other tasks 
> 
> Luis

If anyone wants to undertake statistics/metrics tasks for
CC, you will
be greeted with showers of praise, adoration, and glowing
blog posts...

Do we have any wiki pages dedicated to metrics? Maybe this
would be an
appropriate time for you alls, Alek, Bjorn, others, to flesh
out other
metrics you want, possibly contribute some scripts, etc. Is
anyone
interested in this?

Mike, do we have any pages on this?

Maybe something like this: 

http://wik
i.creativecommons.org/Statistics or

http://wiki.c
reativecommons.org/Metrics

Jon

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On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 14:14 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote:
> Mike, do we have any pages on this?

Yes...

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:Search?s
earch=statistics

I'll ask Asheesh to add a developer-oriented article to
this.


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