Re: wrong license info / logo

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Mike Linksvayer wrote:

> 
> Do you have any ideas about where people are going in
Poland when they
> want to use a CC license apart from
creativecommons.org/license ?
> 

having encountered frequently websites with license buttons
containing
no metadata and sitting locally on the website, i would
assume that many
web-site owners/masters/designers just copy the button as an
image and
don't nest the code.

tom
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tomislav medak ha scritto:
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> Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> 
>> Do you have any ideas about where people are going
in Poland when they
>> want to use a CC license apart from
creativecommons.org/license ?
>>
> 
> having encountered frequently websites with license
buttons containing
> no metadata and sitting locally on the website, i would
assume that many
> web-site owners/masters/designers just copy the button
as an image and
> don't nest the code.
> 

Then some content hosting sites offer you the possibility to
license 
your content without going to creativecommons.org/license:
flickr, 
blip.tv, archive.org; blogging tools too: for instance the
blogs at 
digitaldivide.net, but other ones too.

In these cases, the result is a button linked to the deed
for humans, 
but you do not actually get a full registration code with
the name of 
the author, the title of the work etc.

Does this mean that these licenses linking to the deed, but
without 
registration info, are invalid?

Best

Claude

Claude Almansi
CH-6532 Castione
www.noimedia.org
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On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 00:51 +0100, tomislav medak wrote:
> Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> > Do you have any ideas about where people are going
in Poland when they
> > want to use a CC license apart from
creativecommons.org/license ?
>
> having encountered frequently websites with license
buttons containing
> no metadata and sitting locally on the website, i would
assume that many
> web-site owners/masters/designers just copy the button
as an image and
> don't nest the code.

If they copy the image to their own server there's nothing
to be done
other than to send an email gently asking them to add a
link.

Practically the same is true even if they've included an
image hosted on
cc.org in their pages without a link.  In theory we could
serve a
different image for pages lacking a license link, but it
would be very
expensive and would almost certainly generate false
positives and not a
high correction rate.

In other words I don't have a solution better than reaching
out to
licensors who should be providing more precise notice. 
Please do reach
out when you have the opportunity. 


> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 02:17 +0100, tomislav medak
wrote: 
> > Claude Almansi wrote:
> > > Then some content hosting sites offer you the
possibility to license 
> > > your content without going to
creativecommons.org/license: flickr, 
> > > blip.tv, archive.org; blogging tools too: for
instance the blogs at 
> > > digitaldivide.net, but other ones too.
> > 
> > oh, i was thinking of mentioning that, but forgot
- suboptimal lisensing
> > on sites like flickr with no metadata.

Generally services like Flickr at least link to the specific
license being
used.  Some could publish better metadata, but that's a
different problem.

If you know of sites that facilitate publishing lots of CC
licensed content
that don't even link to or otherwise specify the exact
license used please
ask them to fix.  If you (anyone reading this) is not sure
exactly what to
ask a specific site to do feel free to post here or contact
me directly.

> > > In these cases, the result is a button linked
to the deed for humans, 
> > > but you do not actually get a full
registration code with the name of 
> > > the author, the title of the work etc.
> > > 
> > > Does this mean that these licenses linking to
the deed, but without 
> > > registration info, are invalid?
> > 
> > i guess indicating the licese choice even without
linking should qualify
> > as valid. it indicates the author's choice, but
doesn't point the user
> > to the explanation putting the burden on him and
doesn't make use of the
> > technological opportunities offered by CC
licensing technology.

It is valid so long as it is clear which license is being
offered.  Linking
is the easiest way to do that. 


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> no metadata and sitting locally on the website, i would
assume that many
> web-site owners/masters/designers just copy the button
as an image and
> don't nest the code.

It's my impression that a large proportion of web site
designers do not
understand HTML or scripting and simply copy code from other
sites.  As
such, they will not fixup any features of the code that
don't impact
the obvious visual behaviour.
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