Aha, more details wrt to the Journal in OLPC, where cc
licensing
happens...openoffice.org opendocument format is what OLPC
will use as
default. How's our liblicense support for that format?

Jon

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> From: Martin Sevior <mseviorphysics.unimelb.edu.au>
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> To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivogmail.com>
> Cc: sugarlists.laptop.org
> Subject: Re: [sugar] First impressions of a B4 machine
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:03 +1000
> 
> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 06:29 +0100, Ivo Emanuel
Gonçalves wrote:
> > Hello Sugar and Devel lists,
> 
> > Next is AbiWord.  Why was it not stripped of
support for most file
> > formats? 
> 
> Once the integration with the journal is complete, the
users will be not
> normally be asked anything about filename or
fileformat. The default
> format written to the journal is currently *.odt
> 
> Nevertheless Write will continue to be able to read
*.doc,*rtf and *.abw
> files, since the former are extremely common about the
internet and the
> latter is built into the program, is a trivial amount
of code , is
> required for the AbiCollab document collaboration and
guarantees loss
> less saving/loading for non-typical use cases.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Martin
> 
>  
> > Thank you for your attention,
> > Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves,
> > Xiph.Org Foundation
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> Aha, more details wrt to the Journal in OLPC, where cc
licensing
> happens...openoffice.org opendocument format is what
OLPC will use as
> default. How's our liblicense support for that format?
>   
Support for writing licenses into opendocument files
involves extending
the format's metadata description itself to include
licenses. 
Opendocument's metadata description doesn't natively include
a field for
licenses.

Opendocument does support four user-defined fields, but I
don't think
it's a good idea to encourage using that to store licenses. 
It makes
migration to the long-term solution of using an extended odt
metadata
descritpion all the more difficult.

Basically, before liblicense can support opendocument, we
need a
specification.  I've seen some news on a specification, but
I don't know
what the progress or timeline is.

Cheers,
Jason
> Jon
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>   
>> From: Martin Sevior <mseviorphysics.unimelb.edu.au>
>> Reply-To: mseviorphysics.unimelb.edu.au
>> To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivogmail.com>
>> Cc: sugarlists.laptop.org
>> Subject: Re: [sugar] First impressions of a B4
machine
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:03 +1000
>>
>> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 06:29 +0100, Ivo Emanuel
Gonçalves wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello Sugar and Devel lists,
>>>       
>>> Next is AbiWord.  Why was it not stripped of
support for most file
>>> formats? 
>>>       
>> Once the integration with the journal is complete,
the users will be not
>> normally be asked anything about filename or
fileformat. The default
>> format written to the journal is currently *.odt
>>
>> Nevertheless Write will continue to be able to read
*.doc,*rtf and *.abw
>> files, since the former are extremely common about
the internet and the
>> latter is built into the program, is a trivial
amount of code , is
>> required for the AbiCollab document collaboration
and guarantees loss
>> less saving/loading for non-typical use cases.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>  
>>     
>>> Thank you for your attention,
>>> Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves,
>>> Xiph.Org Foundation
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sugar mailing list
>>> Sugarlists.laptop.org
>>> http://lists.l
aptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sugar mailing list
>> Sugarlists.laptop.org
>> http://lists.l
aptop.org/listinfo/sugar
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On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 15:22 -0700, Jason Kivlighn wrote:
> > Aha, more details wrt to the Journal in OLPC,
where cc licensing
> > happens...openoffice.org opendocument format is
what OLPC will use as
> > default. How's our liblicense support for that
format?
> >   
> Support for writing licenses into opendocument files
involves extending
> the format's metadata description itself to include
licenses. 
> Opendocument's metadata description doesn't natively
include a field for
> licenses.
> 
> Opendocument does support four user-defined fields, but
I don't think
> it's a good idea to encourage using that to store
licenses.  It makes
> migration to the long-term solution of using an
extended odt metadata
> descritpion all the more difficult.
> 
> Basically, before liblicense can support opendocument,
we need a
> specification.  I've seen some news on a specification,
but I don't know
> what the progress or timeline is.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason

This is super high priority. We need to figure out the spec
for this
that works with the OO.o folks. I'm cc'ing Hubert, who is
working on
OO.o for Novell.

Hub, what do you think? What would be really great is to get
xmp working
as the standard. In fact, I would advocate for this if
possible, esp. if
there isn't a clear way forward.

So, would be great to pick a good step forward on this, here
from Cassio
as well, and then bring up the best way forward on the olpc
list. 

Since OpenDocFormat is going to be the default format on
OLPC, metadata
is critical to pick and move forward on. XMP on OpenDoc is
what I would
like to see...then we can add to eXMPi...

Jon

> > Jon
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >   
> >> From: Martin Sevior <mseviorphysics.unimelb.edu.au>
> >> Reply-To: mseviorphysics.unimelb.edu.au
> >> To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivogmail.com>
> >> Cc: sugarlists.laptop.org
> >> Subject: Re: [sugar] First impressions of a B4
machine
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:03 +1000
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 06:29 +0100, Ivo Emanuel
Gonçalves wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hello Sugar and Devel lists,
> >>>       
> >>> Next is AbiWord.  Why was it not stripped
of support for most file
> >>> formats? 
> >>>       
> >> Once the integration with the journal is
complete, the users will be not
> >> normally be asked anything about filename or
fileformat. The default
> >> format written to the journal is currently
*.odt
> >>
> >> Nevertheless Write will continue to be able to
read *.doc,*rtf and *.abw
> >> files, since the former are extremely common
about the internet and the
> >> latter is built into the program, is a trivial
amount of code , is
> >> required for the AbiCollab document
collaboration and guarantees loss
> >> less saving/loading for non-typical use cases.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>  
> >>     
> >>> Thank you for your attention,
> >>> Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves,
> >>> Xiph.Org Foundation
> >>>
_______________________________________________
> >>> Sugar mailing list
> >>> Sugarlists.laptop.org
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aptop.org/listinfo/sugar
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> >>
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> 
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