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Query:Radio
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 2006-11-20 21:20:33 

  


  

    



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Hi




theprojekt.co.uk is a
relatively new initiative set up to develop the skills of young
Scottish film-makers and musicians. We publish our members' work on our
website for review and comment - all of this material is CC licensed
(Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share-alike as standard,
Attribution-Non-Commercial- No-Derivs when members use copyrighted
material from our bank of pre-approved copyrighted materials, or as
inherited).


We've decided to use
ccMixter as a training resource for our members.

 

During our initial research, I was so impressed with some of the mixes
on the site, I sent links to friends so they could enjoy and check out
the site also. Their responses were predictably positive.



Several of my friends work in local broadcast radio (commercial) - is
there any mechanism that allows them to pick up on certain cc licensed
mixes/remixes
and promote them (and ccMixter) to a wider audience? Do the fees they
pay to e.g.  the performing rights society in the UK, cover them to
play CC-licensed material, or if the cc license is non-commercial do
they have to approach each individual artist (and previous contributors
in the case of a remix/mashup etc) in each individual case to negotiate
clearance/fees etc?




Grateful for your help and
clarification









 


Regards



  
Pete Rabjohns

  
 
E-mail:   infotheprojekt.co.uk">infotheprojekt.co.uk

  





  
    

      
      

        

        

        

        
 

        

      

      		
    

    
    
  





  

  
  
   
     
    

  

    Query:Radio
  


  

     user name

     2006-11-21 18:13:10
  


  

    
Pete wrote:

> or if the cc license is non-commercial do they have to
approach each individual artist (and previous contributors
in the case of a remix/mashup etc) in each individual case
to negotiate clearance/fees etc?

Yes, unless all of the artists are also members of the
appropriate
copyright royalty collecting organization--- then it gets
treated as
an ARR work.

xan

jonathon
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     user name

     2006-11-21 18:19:27
  


  

    
hey jonathan,

sorry but i don't quite understand your post.  as i
mentioned -  
unless the artist is a member of ASCAP or BMI they legally
cannot use  
a CC license. but an organization can still use a CC
licensed work -  
if it is within the terms of the CC license, then they don't
have to  
do more with it. if their use falls outside of the CC
license, then  
the organization has to enter into individual deals with
each artist  
- is that what you mean when you say that it gets treated as
an ARR  
(I assume you mean "all rights reserved") work?

thanks, mia

On Nov 21, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Jonathon Blake wrote:

> Pete wrote:
>
>> or if the cc license is non-commercial do they have
to approach  
>> each individual artist (and previous contributors
in the case of a  
>> remix/mashup etc) in each individual case to
negotiate clearance/ 
>> fees etc?
>
> Yes, unless all of the artists are also members of the
appropriate
> copyright royalty collecting organization--- then it
gets treated as
> an ARR work.
>
> xan
>
> jonathon
> -- 
> Ethical conduct is a vice.
> Corrupt conduct is a virtue.
>
> Motto of Nacarima
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     user name

     2006-11-21 22:16:01
  


  

    
Mia wrote:

> sorry but i don't quite understand your post.

I'll rephrase it then.

If a CC-NC licence is used, then for commercial usage the
creators have 
to be individually contacted, unless
i) The creators are also members of the appropriate
copyright royalty 
collecting organization;
ii) The creators have submitted the appropriate paperwork to
the 
copyright royalty collecting organization;

If both i & ii apply, then it is treated by the
copyright royalty 
collecting organization as if it was a standard "all
rights reserved" 
license --- assuming the submitted paperwork does not state
otherwise..

Typically, Copyright royalty collecting organizations will
notify users 
if the artist is not a member of their organization. The
organization 
will also attempt to persuade the artist to join their
organization.
Usually, they will also notify users if a specific work is
not covered, 
even if the artist is a member of the organization.

Does that clarify it for you?

xan

jonathon
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