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any examples of how to attribute?
user name
2006-12-03 09:43:21
I have published some sheet music at the
www.mutopiaproject.org under

"Creative Commons Attribution 2.5"
( http://cr
eativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ )

An example of those tunes is:

"Traditioner af Swenska Folk-Dansar, 1st part, nr
31"
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/Tradit
ional/traditioner_af_swenska_folk_dansar.1.31/traditioner_af
_swenska_folk_dansar.1.31-a4.pdf

Last week I was contacted by someone who wanted to create
derivative
work ( also sheet music ) of this music. So the license
requires him
to attribute my work in his derivative work.

I have read
http://wiki.c
reativecommons.org/FAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creativ
e_Commons_licensed_work.3F

but I would be very interested in seeing some examples of
how such an
attribution text could look like.

Could I require that the attribution text should be placed
under each
of the tunes he creates or could I only require that the
attribution
text is placed at one place in the book if he publish a
collection of
these tunes?

cheers,
Erik Sjölund
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2006-12-03 13:50:30
You can read how I show my attribution requirements for
Bounty Hunters here:

http://www.gregbond.com/bountyhunters/bountyhunters.htm

It's on the first page, and looks like this:
:Copyright 2006 Greg bond

:This work licensed under the CreativeCommons–Attribution
license.
:The following information is provided for attribution
purposes:
:Author's Name: Greg bond
:Title of Work: Bounty Hunters
:URL: http://www.Gregbond.com
/cc/by

The CC-BY license says you must Attribute the information
"if provided", so I make a point of saying that it
is "provided"
right here.

Also, URL attribution requires that the URL provided must
point
to licensing information about the work, so I created a
special page on my website that simply lists all the
licensing
information about the work.  Again, Bounty Hunters URL
for attribution is here:

http://www.gregbond.co
m/cc/by/

You could probably point to a page that is more about the
work
and less about the license, but I wanted to make sure the
license
requirements were met. My attribution URL links to all the
pages
readers my want to go to see the actual works, my home page,
etc.


> I have published some sheet music at the
www.mutopiaproject.org under
>
> "Creative Commons Attribution 2.5"
> ( http://cr
eativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ )
>
> An example of those tunes is:
>
> "Traditioner af Swenska Folk-Dansar, 1st part, nr
31"
> http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/Tradit
ional/traditioner_af_swenska_folk_dansar.1.31/traditioner_af
_swenska_folk_dansar.1.31-a4.pdf
>
> Last week I was contacted by someone who wanted to
create derivative
> work ( also sheet music ) of this music. So the license
requires him
> to attribute my work in his derivative work.
>
> I have read
> http://wiki.c
reativecommons.org/FAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creativ
e_Commons_licensed_work.3F
>
> but I would be very interested in seeing some examples
of how such an
> attribution text could look like.
>
> Could I require that the attribution text should be
placed under each
> of the tunes he creates or could I only require that
the attribution
> text is placed at one place in the book if he publish a
collection of
> these tunes?
>
> cheers,
> Erik Sjölund
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2006-12-04 00:24:45
Erik Sjölund wrote:
>
> Could I require that the attribution text should be
placed under each
> of the tunes he creates or could I only require that
the attribution
> text is placed at one place in the book if he publish a
collection of
> these tunes?

The current (2.5) licesnse have the following text in their
attribution 
section:

"Such credit may be implemented in any reasonable
manner; provided, 
however, that in the case of a Derivative Work or Collective
Work, at a 
minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable
authorship 
credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as such
other 
comparable authorship credit."

Having a credits section at the start of a book of sheet
music strikes 
me as a "reasonable manner" of giving credit to
the authors and 
composers.  Thus, I don't think that this lets you require
that the 
attributions in the derivative works be placed on each
individual tune. 
  If he puts the name of any of the other tunes'
authors/composers with 
the individual tunes, however, he'll have to place your
name, etc. with 
your individual tunes.

ObDisclaimer: This isn't legal advice.

James

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2006-12-04 03:36:06
How about for a URL that satisfies the requirements of an
MP3 WOAF
field?  This is a lot like Greg's http://www.Gregbond.com
/cc/by, but
isn't exactly the same.  Or is it?  How are other people
approaching
the verification URL for a song file?  Do you have one page
per song?
How do you set up personal identifiers in the page which are
capable
of being used to verify that it really was you who made this
license
grant?

Per http://wiki.creat
ivecommons.org/MP3 a WOAF field is "WOAF
(Official audio file webpage) should include the URL where
the work
metadata, including verification information, may be
found."
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2006-12-04 04:44:13
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> How about for a URL that satisfies the requirements of
an MP3 WOAF
> field?  This is a lot like Greg's http://www.Gregbond.com
/cc/by, but
> isn't exactly the same.  Or is it?  How are other
people approaching
> the verification URL for a song file?  Do you have one
page per song?
> How do you set up personal identifiers in the page
which are capable
> of being used to verify that it really was you who made
this license
> grant?

Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

There are some examples listed at

http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio
http://microformats
.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Rights_provenance.2Fwarranty.2F
idemnification

(On the uF wiki because we may be using microformats more
extensively in
the future and part of the uF process involves collecting
examples in
the wild, which is helpful in any case.  Feel free to add
more.)

-- 
  
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2006-12-04 07:05:36
On 12/3/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> There are some examples listed at
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio

Thanks, Mike.

> Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

That's what I suspected.  I think that right now it just
isn't
practical for musicians to figure out what a WOAF page might
be.

I have been thinking about ways to make CC infrastructure
profitable
for independent companies.  There's a ton of work to be
done, and some
of it would get done more quickly if there were a profit
motive.  For
example, it would be great if there were a business
motivation to
build out CC licensing tools like WOAF pages.

-L
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2006-12-04 04:44:13
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> How about for a URL that satisfies the requirements of
an MP3 WOAF
> field?  This is a lot like Greg's http://www.Gregbond.com
/cc/by, but
> isn't exactly the same.  Or is it?  How are other
people approaching
> the verification URL for a song file?  Do you have one
page per song?
> How do you set up personal identifiers in the page
which are capable
> of being used to verify that it really was you who made
this license
> grant?

Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

There are some examples listed at

http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio
http://microformats
.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Rights_provenance.2Fwarranty.2F
idemnification

(On the uF wiki because we may be using microformats more
extensively in
the future and part of the uF process involves collecting
examples in
the wild, which is helpful in any case.  Feel free to add
more.)

-- 
  
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Mike_Linksvayer

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2006-12-04 07:05:36
On 12/3/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> There are some examples listed at
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio

Thanks, Mike.

> Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

That's what I suspected.  I think that right now it just
isn't
practical for musicians to figure out what a WOAF page might
be.

I have been thinking about ways to make CC infrastructure
profitable
for independent companies.  There's a ton of work to be
done, and some
of it would get done more quickly if there were a profit
motive.  For
example, it would be great if there were a business
motivation to
build out CC licensing tools like WOAF pages.

-L
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2006-12-04 04:44:13
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> How about for a URL that satisfies the requirements of
an MP3 WOAF
> field?  This is a lot like Greg's http://www.Gregbond.com
/cc/by, but
> isn't exactly the same.  Or is it?  How are other
people approaching
> the verification URL for a song file?  Do you have one
page per song?
> How do you set up personal identifiers in the page
which are capable
> of being used to verify that it really was you who made
this license
> grant?

Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

There are some examples listed at

http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio
http://microformats
.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Rights_provenance.2Fwarranty.2F
idemnification

(On the uF wiki because we may be using microformats more
extensively in
the future and part of the uF process involves collecting
examples in
the wild, which is helpful in any case.  Feel free to add
more.)

-- 
  
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Mike_Linksvayer

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2006-12-04 07:05:36
On 12/3/06, Mike Linksvayer <mlcreativecommons.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> There are some examples listed at
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/licensing-examples#Audio

Thanks, Mike.

> Not a lot of people are doing it is the short answer.

That's what I suspected.  I think that right now it just
isn't
practical for musicians to figure out what a WOAF page might
be.

I have been thinking about ways to make CC infrastructure
profitable
for independent companies.  There's a ton of work to be
done, and some
of it would get done more quickly if there were a profit
motive.  For
example, it would be great if there were a business
motivation to
build out CC licensing tools like WOAF pages.

-L
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