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Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
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2006-07-29 00:46:54
Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> The simple, cost-effective solution, then, would seem
to be to generate
> "static serial numbers" like cipher keys --
with sufficient randomness
> and length that their sequence cannot be predicted.  I
still do not see
> the advantage (except to Certicom, who would doubtless
like to charge a
> bunch of money for their "20-40k gate crypto
code") of using asymmetric
> cryptography in this application.

which effectively gets you the same as the secure hash
scenario for the 
static account number scenario ... example immediately
following the 
million static serial numbers in the same post:
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4

which is countermeasure to attackers taking advantage of
regular pattern.

however, if the static serial number is ever used for any
purpose ... it 
then has to be exposed ... since it is static ... it then is
subject to 
skimming, evesdropping, etc ... and then used in replay
attacks,
i.e. previous post
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4

the only equivalent of static serial number to private key
is if it is 
never exposed ... which effectively implies that it is never
used,
i.e. previous post
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4

for years the standard security response has been that the
best security 
is to lock it away and never use it and/or provide access.

if it is ever used for any purpose ... then it can be
exposed all over 
the place ... in manner similar to static account numbers
(even with the 
static secure hash) described in the same posting as the
million account 
number scenario, i.e. previous post
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4

so is the issue really with asymmetric key cryptography
technology done 
in custom circuit design ... or is the issue with certicom??

btw, the 40k circuit core design that i referred to done in
late 99 and 
early 2000 had no certicom content ... even the ecc was done
w/o any 
certicom content.

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