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no surprise - Sun fails to open source the crypto part of Java
country flaguser name
Austria
2007-05-11 09:42:47
Does anyone know what Sun failed to opensource in the crypto

part of Java?

http://news.com.com/Open-
source+Java-except+for+the+exceptions/2100-7344_3-6182416.ht
ml

They also involve some elements of sound and cryptography, 
said Tom Marble, Sun's OpenJDK ambassador. "We have
already 
contacted the copyright holders. We were unable to negotiate

release under an open-source license," Marble said.

To sidestep the issue, Sun for now includes the proprietary

software as prebuilt "binary" modules that
programmers can 
attach to the versions of Java built from source code.

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Re: no surprise - Sun fails to open source the crypto part of Java
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Germany
2007-05-12 11:46:38
* Ian G.:

> Does anyone know what Sun failed to opensource in the
crypto part of
> Java?

The Sun JCE provider appears to be missing, which means that
few
cryptographic algorithms are actually implemented in the
source drop.
All the symmetric encryption algorithms are missing, for
instance.

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Re: no surprise - Sun fails to open source the crypto part of Java
user name
2007-05-12 13:58:44
> Subject: Re: no surprise - Sun fails to open source the
crypto part of Java

Were you not surprised because you knew that said source is
encumbered,
or because you think Sun has some nefarious motive to not
open source
that code?

If the latter then keep in mind that you can find plenty of
crypto code
in OpenSolaris, which, unless you think the CDDL does not
qualify as
open source, is open source.  I've no first hand knowledge,
but I
suspect that the news story you quoted from is correct: the
code is
encumbered and Sun couldn't get the copyright holders to
permit release
under the GPL in time for the release of Java source under
the GPL.

Nico
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Re: no surprise - Sun fails to open source the crypto part of Java
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United States
2007-05-12 15:05:17
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:42:47PM +0200, Ian G wrote:

> They also involve some elements of sound and
cryptography, 
> said Tom Marble, Sun's OpenJDK ambassador. "We
have already 
> contacted the copyright holders. We were unable to
negotiate 
> release under an open-source license," Marble
said.

I believe at least some versions of Java used RSADSI's JSAFE
for the
low-level crypto code, which would explain why that portion
of it
wasn't included.

-Jack

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