NSA knows who you've called.

Alan,

You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
others?  I've been trying for a good while now,
reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
working.

We are probably well off-topic for this list.

--dan


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dangeer.org wrote:
> You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
> the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
> others?  I've been trying for a good while now,
> reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
> crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
> working.

for other drift ... the stuff about call record analysis
with regard to 
social networking has been topic in datamining conferences
for at least 
a couple years ... both academia and industry. the cellphone
companies 
appear to be especially interested in it, for various kinds
of capacity 
planning and marketing purposes (I think some academia even
have 
contracts with cell phone companies researching this area).

several months ago my wife had extensive communication with
an editor 
doing some background stuff on datamining. some of it showed
up in an 
article somewhat spun for the current situation

Info Mining & Sharing are Controversial Co-Dependents,
part 1:
http://www.publicsect
orinstitute.net/ELetters/EGovernment/v4n7/May13Articles.lsp#
DataMining

my wife's quotes liberally lace part 2:

Data Mining "Disrupts & Enables"
http://www.publicsec
torinstitute.net/ELetters/EGovernment/v4n7/May13Articles.lsp
#DataMining2

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dangeer.org writes:
 > You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
 > the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
 > others?  I've been trying for a good while now,
 > reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
 > crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
 > working.
 > 
 > We are probably well off-topic for this list.

First they came for the terrorists, and I said nothing
because I
wasn't a terrorist.  Then they came for my phone calls, and
I said
nothing because I had nothing to hide.  Then they came for
the
cryptographers, and I said nothing because I coulldn't even
spel the
word.  Now I can't hide anything.

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