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Status of SRP
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2006-06-07 11:39:35
James A. Donald wrote:
> The concept of trusted computing is an attempt to
> address this problem - each application has exclusive
> access to certain data, a trusted path to interact with
> the user, and the ability to prove to servers what code
> is being executed on the client. 

so they aren't exactly unrelated.

re:
http://www
.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#45 Status of SRP
http://www
.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#49 Status of SRP
http://www
.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#50 Status of SRP
http://www
.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#53 Status of SRP

the financial standards x9a10 working group had been given
the 
requirement to preserve the integrity for all retail
payments. the 
result was the x9.59 payment standards for all retail
payments.
http://www
.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959

part of x9.59 retail payment standard requires the
transaction to be 
authenticated. another part of the x9.59 retail payment
standard 
requires that the account number in x9.59 retail payments
can't be used 
in non-authenticated transactions. it as been recognized for
a long time 
that a major source of account financial fraud  has been the
data breaches
ht
tp://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#harvest

and resulting fraudulent use of account numbers ... this is
somewhat my 
old posting on security proportional to risk
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#61

in effect, account numbers have been overloaded. on one
hand, knowledge 
of account numbers have been sufficient for doing fraudulent

transactions. as a result they have to be treated as shared
secrets, 
kept confidential and never divulged. on the other hand,
account numbers 
are required in a large number of business process as the
fundamental 
cornerstone for transaction execution ... and are required
to be widely 
available. as a result of these totally opposing
requirements, i've 
periodically observed that the planet could be buried under
miles of 
cryptography used in hiding account number, and it would
still be unable 
to prevent leakage of account numbers. the x9.59 business
rule 
recognizes this and changes the paradigm, eliminating the
severe 
financial fraud vulnerability associated with divulging
account numbers
(and/or data breaches involving account numbers).

another part of x9.59, in addition to providing for
transaction digital 
signature as part of transaction authentication (and trying
to close 
some of the barn door with the overloaded requirements
placed on account 
numbers) was allowing for a second digital signature by the
environment 
that the transaction originated in. this would provide the
relying party 
additional information for performing risk assessment
related to 
authorizing the transaction.

so later when this software company wanted to come up with
something for 
content providers, they hired the chair of the x9a10
financial standards 
working group to move to redmond to be director of
development.

for other drift on trusted computing ... there are
capability based 
operating systems ... current example is capros ... which
was spawned 
from eros, which was sort of spawned from keykos, which was
spawned from 
gnosis ... recent post mentioning some capros, eros, keykos,
gnosis, et 
all (and other related lore regarding secure and/or
capability-based 
operating systems ... going back to deployments by
commercial 
time-sharing service bureaus in the late 60s and their
connections to 
some of the current efforts ... as well as connections to
what i was
doing as an undergraduate in the 60s)
http://www.
garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37

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Status of SRP
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2006-06-07 21:55:08
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
 > part of x9.59 retail payment standard requires the
 > transaction to be authenticated. another part of the
 > x9.59 retail payment standard requires that the
 > account number in x9.59 retail payments can't be used
 > in non-authenticated transactions. it as been
 > recognized for a long time that a major source of
 > account financial fraud  has been the data breaches
 > ht
tp://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#harvest

Have any merchants adopted the X9.59 standard?

Is it in fact possible for a merchant to today take
orders over X9.59?

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