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DBMail and Sendmail
user name
2007-05-18 12:37:01
Hi

Recently I got introduced to DBMail, very interesting,

I am ready to install this on our live server, but before that just want to clear this issue.

We have 3 Domains on a single machine (Virtual Domains)

I want to install DBMail only to one of them, Can 2 other domains be still accessed thr' as they are currently.

My Question is, Can we have our IMAP/POP3 server running different Domains and DBMail running different Domain side by side on a Same Machine?  DBMail Installation does not change anything on Sendmail and IMAP/POP server that are running currently?


If I understand the Docs , DBMail acts like another POP type service on behalf of user to retrive mail and put it in Database and then User can access DB mail with DBMail';s POP/IMAP server.  Is this correct?

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you
SP
Re: DBMail and Sendmail
country flaguser name
United States
2007-05-18 13:51:29
> Hi
>
> Recently I got introduced to DBMail, very interesting,
>
> I am ready to install this on our live server, but
before that just want
> to
> clear this issue.
>
> We have 3 Domains on a single machine (Virtual
Domains)
>
> I want to install DBMail only to one of them, Can 2
other domains be still
> accessed thr' as they are currently.
>
with  postfix  in transport  you can use  for what domains
dbmail will be
used

> My Question is, Can we have our IMAP/POP3 server
running different Domains
> and DBMail running different Domain side by side on a
Same Machine?

you can  using  different  IP addresses

> DBMail
> Installation does not change anything on Sendmail and
IMAP/POP server that
> are running currently?
>

ups sendmail ... sorry  I only use postfix

>
> If I understand the Docs , DBMail acts like another POP
type service on
> behalf of user to retrive mail and put it in Database
and then User can
> access DB mail with DBMail's POP/IMAP server.  Is this
correct?

yes  that's why  if you need to access your pop3/imap  for
the dbmail
users and  your current email system  you need to use  
different IP
addresses or   different ports.


>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thank you
> SP
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Re: DBMail and Sendmail
country flaguser name
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2007-05-18 15:12:18
On Fri, May 18, 2007, Suhas Pharkute <psuhasgmail.com> said:

> Recently I got introduced to DBMail, very interesting,

Thanks! I hope that you will like using it 

> My Question is, Can we have our IMAP/POP3 server
running different Domains
> and DBMail running different Domain side by side on a
Same Machine?  DBMail
> Installation does not change anything on Sendmail and
IMAP/POP server that
> are running currently?

It all depends on your MTA. Sendmail is able to decide how
to deliver mail
on a per-domain basis, so you should be OK.

> If I understand the Docs , DBMail acts like another POP
type service on
> behalf of user to retrive mail and put it in Database
and then User can
> access DB mail with DBMail's POP/IMAP server.  Is this
correct?

Not quite, DBMail does not pick up mail from a mail queue.
The mail must
be actively handed off to DBMail. This page on the wiki
describes the two
ways to have Sendmail hand off incoming messages:

http://www.dbmail.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=sendmail_how
to

You will need a section in your mailertable like this:

foo.com   dbmail-lmtp:[127.0.0.1]
bar.com   dbmail

(Depending on whether you want to use dbmail-smtp or
dbmail-lmtpd.)

Aaron
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Re: DBMail and Sendmail
country flaguser name
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2007-05-22 09:41:30
I think you can also use something like perdition to sort
this out.  Eg.
have perdition listen on port 143, your old pop3 server on
port 243 and
dbmail-pop3d on port 343, and perdition can be configured to
forward the
right login domains to the right pop3 server.  I think....
but I've
never actually used perdition.


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 12:51 -0600, Leonel Nunez wrote:
> > If I understand the Docs , DBMail acts like
another POP type service
> on
> > behalf of user to retrive mail and put it in
Database and then User
> can
> > access DB mail with DBMail's POP/IMAP server.  Is
this correct?
> 
> yes  that's why  if you need to access your pop3/imap 
for the dbmail
> users and  your current email system  you need to use  
different IP
> addresses or   different ports. 
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Re: DBMail and Sendmail
user name
2007-05-22 09:58:02
That will be one way to go, thank you for that.

I wish DBMail can be configured to pickup mail rather than delivered to it, by that way, DBMail can connect using IMAP/POP3 fetch mail from remote server and save it in DB. About 6 months ago I was involved in that project but it did not live long as requirements changed.

Thank you
Suhas

On 5/22/07, Jesse Norell < jessekci.net">jessekci.net&gt; wrote:
I think you can also use something like perdition to sort this out.  Eg.
have perdition listen on port 143, your old pop3 server on port 243 and
dbmail-pop3d on port 343, and perdition can be configured to forward the
right login domains to the right pop3 server.&nbsp; I think.... but I've
never actually used perdition.


On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 12:51 -0600, Leonel Nunez wrote:
>; > If I understand the Docs , DBMail acts like another POP type service
> on
> > behalf of user to retrive mail and put it in Database and then User
> can
> > access DB mail with DBMail';s POP/IMAP server.&nbsp; Is this correct?
&gt;
> yes &nbsp;that&#39;s why &nbsp;if you need to access your pop3/imap&nbsp; for the dbmail
&gt; users and &nbsp;your current email system&nbsp; you need to use &nbsp; different IP
> addresses or &nbsp; different ports.
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Re: DBMail and Sendmail
user name
2007-05-22 12:54:01
Sorry for the confusion,

In simpler words, if DBMail can fetch mail actively, that way Send mail config does need to be changed. I have limited access on one of server where Admin may not allow to change the Sendmail.cf file

In current config as I am reading it needs mail handed over to it.

 ;
Does that make sense?

Thx,
Suhas




On 5/22/07, Paul J Stevens < paulnfg.nl">paulnfg.nl>; wrote:
Suhas Pharkute wrote:
&gt; That will be one way to go, thank you for that.
>
> I wish DBMail can be configured to pickup mail rather than delivered to
> it, by that way, DBMail can connect using IMAP/POP3 fetch mail from
>; remote server and save it in DB. About 6 months ago I was involved in
> that project but it did not live long as requirements changed.

That is what fetchmail is for.

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Re: DBMail and Sendmail
user name
2007-05-22 14:31:30
Thank you for this wonderful info, will let you know the progress

Suhas

On 5/22/07, Aaron Stone < aaronserendipity.cx">aaronserendipity.cx > wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2007, Suhas Pharkute < psuhasgmail.com"> psuhasgmail.com> said:

>; Sorry for the confusion,
>
> In simpler words, if DBMail can fetch mail actively, that way Send mail
> config does need to be changed. I have limited access on one of server where
&gt; Admin may not allow to change the Sendmail.cf file
>
> In current config as I am reading it needs mail handed over to it.

DBMail needs the mail handed to it. Mail can be handed to DBMail over a
pipe with dbmail-smtp, or over LMTP protocol with dbmail-lmtpd. There are
no active pick up mechanisms in DBMail.

If you want to pick up mail from a mail spool and deliver to DBMail, use
fetchmail. The section ref below takes you to the delivery options.
Fetchmail is happy to pick up mail and give it to dbmail-smtp using the
'--mda' option, or to dbmail-lmtpd using the '--lmtp' option. Of course
the other configuration details will depend on how you have Sendmail
configured.

http://fetchmail.berlios.de/fetchmail-man.html#7

Good luck!

Aaron
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