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Problematic with Postfix setup
user name
2007-10-20 10:26:57
Hi all,

I've heard wonderful things about DBMail and I'm looking to
switch my
existing setup. One of the reasons I'm looking to switch is
because of
the ability to filter virtual user mail with sieve.
Currently I'm
having the following issues:

When testing on my local box:

Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/bounce[8450]: 47FC44443BC:
sender
non-delivery notification: A61964443FE
Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: A61964443FE:
from=<>,
size=2109, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: 47FC44443BC:
removed
Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/smtp[8449]: A61964443FE:
to=<sfphpgeek.org>, relay=none, delay=0.17,
delays=0.07/0/0.1/0,
dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for phpgeek.org loops back
to myself)
Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: A61964443FE:
removed

>From an external box:

Oct 20 11:20:19 catalyst postfix/smtpd[8445]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT
from nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.224]: 554 5.7.1
<sfphpgeek.org>: Relay access denied; from=<sfstevefink.net>
to=<sfphpgeek.org> proto=ESMTP
helo=<nz-out-0506.google.com>

Here is my current postfix main.cf and master.cf, if anyone
could be
as kind enough to help me.

rootcatalyst:~/dbmail-2.2.7-rc4# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = no
biff = no
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
config_directory = /etc/postfix
delay_warning_time = 4h
disable_vrfy_command = yes
inet_interfaces = all
local_recipient_maps =
mailbox_transport = dbmail-lmtp:localhost:24
maximal_backoff_time = 8000s
maximal_queue_lifetime = 7d
minimal_backoff_time = 1000s
mydestination =
myhostname = mail.phpgeek.org
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
mynetworks_style = host
relayhost =
smtp_helo_timeout = 60s
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Microsoft
Vista)
smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client
sbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org, reject_rbl_client
blackholes.easynet.nl, reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org,
permit
smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining
smtpd_delay_reject = yes
smtpd_hard_error_limit = 12
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, warn_if_reject
reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_invalid_hostname, permit
smtpd_recipient_limit = 64
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_pipelining,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service
inet:127.0.0.1:60000,
permit
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
smtpd_sasl_path = /etc/postfix/sasl:/usr/lib/sasl2
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining,
permit
smtpd_soft_error_limit = 3
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/postfix.cert
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/postfix.key
smtpd_use_tls = yes
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450

rootcatalyst:~/dbmail-2.2.7-rc4# cat
/etc/postfix/master.cf
#
# Postfix master process configuration file.  For details on
the format
# of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command:
"man 5 master").
#
#
============================================================
==============
# service type  private unpriv  chroot  wakeup  maxproc
command + args
#               (yes)   (yes)   (yes)   (never) (100)
#
============================================================
==============
#smtp      inet  n       -       -       -       -      
smtpd
smtp      inet  n       -       -       -       -      
smtpd
        -o cleanup_service_name=pre-cleanup
submission inet n       -       -       -       -      
smtpd
  -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#smtps     inet  n       -       -       -       -      
smtpd
smtps   inet    n       -       n       -       -      
smtpd   -o
 smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes       -o
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#628      inet  n       -       -       -       -      
qmqpd
pickup    fifo  n       -       -       60      1      
pickup
#cleanup   unix  n       -       -       -       0      
cleanup
cleanup   unix  n       -       -       -       0      
cleanup
        -o mime_header_checks=
        -o nested_header_checks=
        -o body_checks=
        -o header_checks=
amavis unix     -       -       -       -       2      
smtp
        -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
        -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
127.0.0.1:10025 inet    n       -       -       -       -   
   smtpd
        -o content_filter=
        -o local_recipient_maps=
        -o relay_recipient_maps=
        -o smtpd_restriction_classes=
        -o smtpd_client_restrictions=
        -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
        -o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
        -o
smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
        -o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
        -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
        -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
        -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
        -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1001
pre-cleanup     unix    n       -       -       -       0   
   cleanup
        -o virtual_alias_maps=
        -o canonical_maps=
        -o sender_canonical_maps=
        -o recipient_canonical_maps=
        -o masquerade_domains=
dbmail-lmtp     unix    -       -       n       -       -   
   lmtp -v
qmgr      fifo  n       -       n       300     1      
qmgr
#qmgr     fifo  n       -       -       300     1      
oqmgr
#tlsmgr    unix  -       -       -       1000?   1      
tlsmgr
tlsmgr    unix  -       -       n       300   1      
tlsmgr
rewrite   unix  -       -       -       -       -      
trivial-rewrite
bounce    unix  -       -       -       -       0      
bounce
defer     unix  -       -       -       -       0      
bounce
trace     unix  -       -       -       -       0      
bounce
verify    unix  -       -       -       -       1      
verify
flush     unix  n       -       -       1000?   0      
flush
proxymap  unix  -       -       n       -       -      
proxymap
smtp      unix  -       -       -       -       -      
smtp
# When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to
avoid MX loops
relay     unix  -       -       -       -       -      
smtp
        -o fallback_relay=
#       -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5
showq     unix  n       -       -       -       -      
showq
error     unix  -       -       -       -       -      
error
discard   unix  -       -       -       -       -      
discard
local     unix  -       n       n       -       -      
local
virtual   unix  -       n       n       -       -      
virtual
lmtp      unix  -       -       -       -       -      
lmtp
anvil     unix  -       -       -       -       1      
anvil
scache    unix  -       -       -       -       1      
scache
#
#
============================================================
========
# Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the
manual
# pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options
it wants.
#
# Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8)
delivery
# agent.  See the pipe(8) man page for information about
$
# and other message envelope options.
#
============================================================
========
#
# maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for
details.
# Also specify in main.cf:
maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1
#
maildrop  unix  -       n       n       -       -      
pipe
  flags=DRhu user=virtual argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -d
$
#
# See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration
details.
#
uucp      unix  -       n       n       -       -      
pipe
  flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender -
$nexthop!rmail ($recipient)
#
# Other external delivery methods.
#
ifmail    unix  -       n       n       -       -      
pipe
  flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop
($recipient)
bsmtp     unix  -       n       n       -       -      
pipe
  flags=Fq. user=bsmtp argv=/usr/lib/bsmtp/bsmtp -t$nexthop
-f$sender $recipient
scalemail-backend unix  -       n       n       -       2   
   pipe
  flags=R user=scalemail
argv=/usr/lib/scalemail/bin/scalemail-store
$ $ $
mailman   unix  -       n       n       -       -      
pipe
  flags=FR user=list
argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py
  $ $

587     inet    n       -       n       -       -      
smtpd -o
smtpd_enforce_tls=yes  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes

Thank you.

- sf
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RE: Problematic with Postfix setup
country flaguser name
Russian Federation
2007-10-21 02:51:50
if SASL using for SMTP auth, it must got (plaintext!) passwords from dbmail_USERS table,
or duplicate passwords&nbsp;in original SASL database for each mail user (if want make different passwd for POP/IMAP and SMTP).
Then, mail addresses (aliases) must be known for Postfix or mail will bounce.
 
For SASL can get user passwords from DBMail, it must have MySQL plugin installed.
Then set please sasl_passdb and smtpd.conf  files like this examples
 
/etc/postfix/sasl_passdb.cf
user = dbmail
password = dbmail_pass
hosts = 127.0.0.1
port=3306
dbname = dbmail
table = dbmail_users
select_field = passwd
where_field = userid

cat ./smtpd.conf
# SASL library configuration file for postfix
# all parameters are documented into:
# /usr/share/doc/cyrus-sasl-2.*/options.html
# The mech_list parameters list the sasl mechanisms to use,
# default being all mechs found.
# To authenticate using the separate saslauthd daemon, (e.g. for
# system or ldap users). Also see /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd.
# To authenticate against users stored in sasldb.
pwcheck_method: auxprop
auxprop_plugin: sql
sql_engine: mysql
mech_list: LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5 # MY options - You may use other
sql_hostnames: 127.0.0.1:3306
sql_user: dbmail
sql_passwd: dbmail_pass
sql_database: dbmail
sql_verbose: yes
sql_select: SELECT passwd FROM dbmail_users WHERE userid = '%u'

For Postfix will know aliases from DBMail, Postfix must have MySQL base read ability and
a file (I use /etc/postfix/sql-recipients.cf), added into local_recipient_maps in main.cf like  
local_recipient_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/sql-recipients.cf $alias_maps
 
 cat ./sql-recipients.cf
user = dbmail
password = dbmail_passwd
hosts = 127.0.0.1
port=3306
dbname = dbmail
table = dbmail_aliases
select_field = alias
where_field = alias


This works for me now...
Best regards!




> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:26:57 -0400
> From: sfstevefink.net
> To: dbmaildbmail.org
> Subject: [Dbmail] Problematic with Postfix setup
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've heard wonderful things about DBMail and I'm looking to switch my
> existing setup. One of the reasons I'm looking to switch is because of
> the ability to filter virtual user mail with sieve. Currently I'm
> having the following issues:
&gt;
> When testing on my local box:
>
> Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/bounce[8450]: 47FC44443BC: sender
>; non-delivery notification: A61964443FE
> Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: A61964443FE: from=<&gt;,
> size=2109, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
&gt; Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: 47FC44443BC: removed
&gt; Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/smtp[8449]: A61964443FE:
> to=<sfphpgeek.org>, relay=none, delay=0.17, delays=0.07/0/0.1/0,
> dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for phpgeek.org loops back to myself)
&gt; Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]: A61964443FE: removed
&gt;
> >From an external box:
>
> Oct 20 11:20:19 catalyst postfix/smtpd[8445]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
> from nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.224]: 554 5.7.1
> <sfphpgeek.org>: Relay access denied; from=<sfstevefink.net>
>; to=<sfphpgeek.org> proto=ESMTP helo=<nz-out-0506.google.com&gt;
>
> Here is my current postfix main.cf and master.cf, if anyone could be
> as kind enough to help me.
>
> rootcatalyst:~/dbmail-2.2.7-rc4# postconf -n
> alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
> append_dot_mydomain = no
> biff = no
> broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
> config_directory = /etc/postfix
> delay_warning_time = 4h
> disable_vrfy_command = yes
> inet_interfaces = all
> local_recipient_maps =
> mailbox_transport = dbmail-lmtp:localhost:24
> maximal_backoff_time = 8000s
> maximal_queue_lifetime = 7d
> minimal_backoff_time = 1000s
> mydestination =
> myhostname = mail.phpgeek.org
> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
> mynetworks_style = host
> relayhost =
> smtp_helo_timeout = 60s
> smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Microsoft Vista)
>; smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org,
>; reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org, reject_rbl_client
>; blackholes.easynet.nl, reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org, permit
>; smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining
> smtpd_delay_reject = yes
> smtpd_hard_error_limit = 12
> smtpd_helo_required = yes
> smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, warn_if_reject
> reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_invalid_hostname, permit
>; smtpd_recipient_limit = 64
> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
&gt; permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_pipelining,
> reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
> reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:60000,
> permit
>; smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
> smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
> smtpd_sasl_path = /etc/postfix/sasl:/usr/lib/sasl2
> smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
> smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,
> permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender,
> reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit
>; smtpd_soft_error_limit = 3
> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/postfix.cert
> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/postfix.key
> smtpd_use_tls = yes
> unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450
>
> rootcatalyst:~/dbmail-2.2.7-rc4# cat /etc/postfix/master.cf
> #
> # Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format
>; # of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: "man 5 master").
> #
> # ==========================================================================
&gt; # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args
> # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100)
> # ==========================================================================
&gt; #smtp inet n - - - - smtpd
> smtp inet n - - - - smtpd
> -o cleanup_service_name=pre-cleanup
> submission inet n - - - - smtpd
> -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
> -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
> -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
> #smtps inet n - - - - smtpd
> smtps inet n - n - - smtpd -o
> smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
> -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
> -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
> -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
> #628 inet n - - - - qmqpd
> pickup fifo n - - 60 1 pickup
>; #cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup
&gt; cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup
&gt; -o mime_header_checks=
&gt; -o nested_header_checks=
> -o body_checks=
> -o header_checks=
> amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
> -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
> -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
&gt; 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
> -o content_filter=
> -o local_recipient_maps=
> -o relay_recipient_maps=
> -o smtpd_restriction_classes=
> -o smtpd_client_restrictions=
> -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
> -o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
> -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
> -o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
> -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
> -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
> -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
> -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1001
> pre-cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup
&gt; -o virtual_alias_maps=
&gt; -o canonical_maps=
> -o sender_canonical_maps=
> -o recipient_canonical_maps=
> -o masquerade_domains=
&gt; dbmail-lmtp unix - - n - - lmtp -v
> qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 qmgr
> #qmgr fifo n - - 300 1 oqmgr
> #tlsmgr unix - - - 1000? 1 tlsmgr
>; tlsmgr unix - - n 300 1 tlsmgr
>; rewrite unix - - - - - trivial-rewrite
> bounce unix - - - - 0 bounce
>; defer unix - - - - 0 bounce
>; trace unix - - - - 0 bounce
>; verify unix - - - - 1 verify
>; flush unix n - - 1000? 0 flush
> proxymap unix - - n - - proxymap
&gt; smtp unix - - - - - smtp
> # When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to avoid MX loops
> relay unix - - - - - smtp
> -o fallback_relay=
> # -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5
> showq unix n - - - - showq
> error unix - - - - - error
> discard unix - - - - - discard
&gt; local unix - n n - - local
> virtual unix - n n - - virtual
&gt; lmtp unix - - - - - lmtp
> anvil unix - - - - 1 anvil
> scache unix - - - - 1 scache
>; #
> # ====================================================================
> # Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the manual
>; # pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options it wants.
>; #
> # Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8) delivery
&gt; # agent. See the pipe(8) man page for information about ${recipient}
> # and other message envelope options.
&gt; # ====================================================================
> #
> # maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details.
&gt; # Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1
> #
> maildrop unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=DRhu user=virtual argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient}
> #
> # See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration details.
&gt; #
> uucp unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail ($recipient)
> #
> # Other external delivery methods.
&gt; #
> ifmail unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop ($recipient)
> bsmtp unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=Fq. user=bsmtp argv=/usr/lib/bsmtp/bsmtp -t$nexthop -f$sender $recipient
> scalemail-backend unix - n n - 2 pipe
> flags=R user=scalemail argv=/usr/lib/scalemail/bin/scalemail-store
> $ $ ${extension}
> mailman unix - n n - - pipe
> flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py
> $ $
&gt;
> 587 inet n - n - - smtpd -o
> smtpd_enforce_tls=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
>
> Thank you.
>
> - sf
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Re: Problematic with Postfix setup
country flaguser name
Netherlands
2007-10-21 12:35:21
Steve Finkelstein wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've heard wonderful things about DBMail and I'm
looking to switch my
> existing setup. One of the reasons I'm looking to
switch is because of
> the ability to filter virtual user mail with sieve.
Currently I'm
> having the following issues:
> 

Steve,

glad you like Dbmail, but this is all really postfix 101
stuff.


> Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/smtp[8449]:
A61964443FE:
> to=<sfphpgeek.org>, relay=none, delay=0.17,
delays=0.07/0/0.1/0,
> dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for phpgeek.org loops
back to myself)
> Oct 20 11:19:47 catalyst postfix/qmgr[8441]:
A61964443FE: removed

This means phpgeek.org has an MX that points to you, but you
don't seem
to recognize phpgeek.org as a local destination

> mydestination =
> myhostname = mail.phpgeek.org


so:

postfix -e 'mydomain=phpgeek.org'
postfix -e
'mydestination=localhost,localhost.$mydomain,$myhostname,$my
domain'

should clear that up.

Make sure you get that up and running before you start
messing with
stuff like sasl.

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Re: Problematic with Postfix setup
country flaguser name
Netherlands
2007-10-21 12:40:29
Vladimir Likhachev wrote:
> if SASL using for SMTP auth, it must got (plaintext!)
passwords from
> dbmail_USERS table,

That is simply not true. I use sasl on just about all my
servers, and I
*never* use cleartext passwords for dbmail.







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RE: Problematic with Postfix setup
country flaguser name
Russian Federation
2007-10-23 04:29:49
Sorry, maybe my English is bad.
I use (APOP with CRAM-MD5) for SMTP auth, but my SASL if get passwds from DBMAIL table, may read it only if they are "plaintext stored".
If I have in my dbmail_users *not* plaintext passwords, SASL can`t auth any user...
Maybe, it`s wrong for Your SASL version/installation?
Moreover, Outlook Express as mail client can use only plaintext auth or TLS. If mail traffic&nbsp;increase approximately in 3 times is undesirable, one can`t use TLS... That is why PLAINTEXT *and* CRAM_MD5&nbsp;used...
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In any case I apologize...
 






> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:40:29 +0200
> From: paulnfg.nl
>; To: dbmaildbmail.org
> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Problematic with Postfix setup
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> Vladimir Likhachev wrote:
>; > if SASL using for SMTP auth, it must got (plaintext!) passwords from
> > dbmail_USERS table,
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> That is simply not true. I use sasl on just about all my servers, and I
> *never* use cleartext passwords for dbmail.
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