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Re: DSPAM (was dbmail-lmtpd eating cpu!)
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United States
2007-11-04 17:36:44
My experience with dspam is that it loses email.
I lost several very expensive emails and if it weren't for
me leaving  
it in debug mode, I would not have had the logs to indicate
it.

Later on I set up a script to search down the email messages
with  
aggression and found that there was a routine incidence of
mail just  
disappearing.

Dspam isn't something I would ever consider using again. 
After  
several postings to the group with specific logs showing the
lost  
messages, and never receiving acknowledgment that there
might be any  
kind of a bug.  Dspam is not for me.


On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Jani Partanen wrote:

>
> It's not only my opinion.  But do as
you like, I didn't like that  
> SA made
> so many mistakes and marked ham as spam. So far dspam
has done zero  
> mistake.
> Sure it does not catch all spam messages but right now
it catch at  
> least
> same rate as spamassassin did, but without mistakes.
And I have  
> only train
> it month.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of
Jorge Bastos
>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:44 AM
>> To: 'DBMail mailinglist'
>> Subject: RE: [Dbmail] DSPAM (was dbmail-lmtpd
eating cpu!)
>>
>> That's your opinion, and i have mine.
>> SA catch almost everything like you say from DSPAM,
so no
>> need to change.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of
Jani Partanen
>> Sent: quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2007 0:19
>> To: 'DBMail mailinglist'
>> Subject: [Dbmail] DSPAM (was dbmail-lmtpd eating
cpu!)
>>
>> Spamassassin isn't even near that accuracy what you
gain with
>> dspam. I have both running, because spamassassin is
more
>> simple for users, but personally I run dspam and
after month
>> training it catch almost everything and most
important thing
>> is that it has not make any mistake so far, I mean
mark any
>> mail as spam when it wasn't.
>>
>> Dspam problem is that it needs little more work
until you get
>> all out of it, but when you have trained it well it
will give
>> you VERY good accuracy. And I'm speaking now 99,9%
accuracy.
>> Thats something you never get with spamassassin.
>>
>> But this goes off topic, so I at least change
subject..
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of
Jorge Bastos
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:45 PM
>>> To: 'DBMail mailinglist'
>>> Subject: RE: [Dbmail] dbmail-lmtpd eating cpu!
>>>
>>> I preffer spamassassin, works great, never had
problems, no need to
>>> change, and most of all, catch's about 90% of
the spam, and
>> messages
>>> that were not spam but catght are very very
rare.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of
Jani Partanen
>>> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2007
21:21
>>> To: 'DBMail mailinglist'
>>> Subject: RE: [Dbmail] dbmail-lmtpd eating cpu!
>>>
>>> It's very powerfull antispam solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>>>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Bastos
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:14 AM
>>>> To: 'DBMail mailinglist'
>>>> Subject: RE: [Dbmail] dbmail-lmtpd eating
cpu!
>>>>
>>>> Dspam? What is that? :P
>>>> No, I don't use dspam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org
>>>> [mailto:dbmail-bouncesdbmail.org] On Behalf Of Niki Guldbrand
>>>> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2007
3:21
>>>> To: DBMail mailinglist
>>>> Subject: RE: [Dbmail] dbmail-lmtpd eating
cpu!
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jorge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 20:33 +0000, Jorge
Bastos wrote:
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>> Check the files attached.
>>>>> This is the message that caused this.
>>>>> I have one file with the state of the
message while it was
>>>> in queue,
>>>>> because of the message that it was
giving, I "shoted" at it and
>>>>> deleted it and voilá, it was really
this message that
>> was causing
>>>>> lmtpd to
>>>> eat the CPU.
>>>>> Now, in wich circunstancies this
happened... I really
>>> have no idea.
>>>>> I have postfix with clamsmtpd and
spamd.
>>>>> Tell me what you need to help on this.
>>>>> I belive there's other guy with the
same problem once
>> in a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the snippet below, doesn't
that look like
>>> the signature
>>>> bug that is/was(?) in dspam ?
>>>> Or am i totally off here ?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Snippet -----
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>>>>
boundary="--C3B11B941435CAC47D9BBFB287DA26D0"
>>>> ""
>>>>
>>>> ""
>>>> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP
>>>>
>>>> ""
>>>>
>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME
format.
>>>> ---- Snippet End ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Niki Guldbrand
>>>>
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Re: DSPAM (was dbmail-lmtpd eating cpu!)
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2007-11-05 05:52:04
On 11/4/2007, Tom Allison (tomtacocat.net) wrote:
> Dspam isn't something I would ever consider using
again.  After 
> several postings to the group with specific logs
showing the lost 
> messages, and never receiving acknowledgment that there
might be any 
> kind of a bug.  Dspam is not for me. 

The main problem with DSPAM is it is not very easy to
configure 
correctly, or to optimize.

ASSP, on the other hand, works out of the box, with *very*
little config 
necessary, and the defaults and default spam corpus provide
an out of 
the box accuracy of 95+%...

With a bit of training, it quickly gets up to 99+%.

As I said - the only downside to ASSP is it doesn't provide
per-domain 
or per-user settings - although there is a commercial cPanel
version 
that does, if you happen to be running a cPanel server.

I'd sure like to see similar functionality provided by
webmin/virtualmin 
- even if it was limited to Virtualmin Pro.

-- 

Best regards,

Charles
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