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local v. remote
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2006-06-19 06:17:43
Just a few thoughts and a somewhat different
perspective.....

Running DBMail's RDBMS away from the DBMail daemons seems
like the norm and 
not an oddity doesn't it? I prefer to see some little 1Us
handling service 
delivery traffic with one or two CPUs and the big iron doing
the RDBMS and 
file storage behind some isolating appliances (what RDBMS is
really 
NFS-safe?). That means the RDBMS is "remote"--in
the context of this 
thread--from all the DBMail/MTA daemons.

In any case at least one of MX1, MX2, MX3... etc. would be
off the RDBMS 
host in terms of injecting into the RDBMS and when running
large database 
clusters you are going to connect via TCP in totality I
would think. The 
same is roughly true for fetching from the database with
your POP and IMAP 
depending on how you have your users split up.

Most email users will be connecting across the internet at
around 1-5mbits 
per second. Your local network must have data at the bridge
to the WAN at a 
speed equal to or greater than the user's upstream data
flow rate. If the 
LAN is running at 100mbs you have capability of 20 to 100
1-5mbit 
connections per second per interface. In other words there
is a very low 
probability the latency in the system between the DBMail
daemon 's WAN 
facing interface and the LAN-side RDBMS will impact Internet
mail users 
significantly on the average system. At some point you may
need to add many 
more front-ends and split up the users the way ISPs do when
user numbers get 
into the hundreds of thousands. Trust me when I say the
IMAP/POP daemons are 
not running on the storage hosts and that all connections
are TCP.

Gig LAN is a good upgrade and so too is 64-bit hardware for
the RDBMS but 
unless you are fully wired with Cat6 its a no-go. With good
switches and Cat 
6 (or at very least Cat5E) GIG LAN will give you a huge
increase in 
throughput for moving large files like db backups dumps and
the like as well 
as regular traffic. If you have some LAN fibre to light up
then that's a 
whole other thing.

regards,
Fred









----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Bastos" <mysql.jorgedecimal.pt>
To: "DBMail mailinglist" <dbmaildbmail.org>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Dbmail] local v. remote


>A remote MySQL server (on the same internal network)
could be a problem 
>when the database became with 2/3 or more GB's (or
maybe not) in a 100Mbps 
>wire, and worst, if users deal with large emails, like
bit attach's etc 
>etc, all toghther at the same time may slow down the
server response.
>
> My Opinion of course :P
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DK" <gruesslegmail.com>
> To: "DBMail mailinglist" <dbmaildbmail.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] local v. remote
>
>
>> Why don't you run it local and install a remote
copy of the db?
>> Consider this: I had run dbmail with only a few
users and a few days,
>> the db size is already 75MB
>>
>> Demi
>>
>>
>> On 6/15/06, jurgen <thingergmail.com> wrote:
>>> >From what I understand, there's no problem
with running a remote MySQL
>>> server. You just need to be careful with
permissions, make sure that
>>> the dbmail user has the proper rights and
privileges to access the
>>> server. Also, there's *lots* of database
activity involved, so make
>>> sure the MySQL server isn't *that* remote.
>>>
>>> ....jurgen
>>>
>>> On 16/06/06, Matthew Story <matthewstorygmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I"m trying to run with a remote
MySQL server, does this require any
>>> > different writing of transports and such
in Exim4 in terms of local v.
>>> > remote delivery?  I only ask because all
the howtos and install
>>> > documentation assume that you're running
the mysql server on the same
>>> > box as the Exim4 server.
>>> > --
>>> > regards,
>>> > matt
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