Dc503-members Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5

Well I will get working on the slides and such for the
presentation on 
wep/wpa. Hopefully the meet will be saturday as is the
custom as I start a 
new job first week of september. Who all is going to
toorcon?

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>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:23:02 -0700
>From: "Joren Love" <lovecomplexgmail.com>
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>I remember a meeting being scheduled for this coming
saturday (the
>26th.) Looking in my email I found this:
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>"Final order of business in this overly long email
is.. "when the hell
>will 503 meet again??"   The last Saturday in
August, 08/25/2006, we
>will meet at the Urban Grind with a planned topic of
Mactel: Building
>a Mac for $250 give or take."
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>Not sure if this is still on but I would like to know
for sure so I
>don't end up showing up for nothing 
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>Last I heard from Mushasi,
>We were going to wait for Sept. for the next meeting.
>But if you got something great like Mac on intel. I'll
be there.
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>On 8/23/06, Joren Love <lovecomplexgmail.com> wrote:
> > I remember a meeting being scheduled for this
coming saturday (the
> > 26th.) Looking in my email I found this:
> >
> > "Final order of business in this overly long
email is.. "when the hell
> > will 503 meet again??"   The last Saturday
in August, 08/25/2006, we
> > will meet at the Urban Grind with a planned topic
of Mactel: Building
> > a Mac for $250 give or take."
> >
> > Not sure if this is still on but I would like to
know for sure so I
> > don't end up showing up for nothing 
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>Mactel is definately pushed back into Sept .. likely a
couple or so
>weeks in as the September meeting, so the idea of an
August meeting on
>WEP/WPA or .. whatever interesting .. sounds good to me
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>On 8/23/06, Jomama <tirebitergmail.com> wrote:
> > Last I heard from Mushasi,
> > We were going to wait for Sept. for the next
meeting.
> > But if you got something great like Mac on intel.
I'll be there.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/23/06, Joren Love <lovecomplexgmail.com> wrote:
> > > I remember a meeting being scheduled for this
coming saturday (the
> > > 26th.) Looking in my email I found this:
> > >
> > > "Final order of business in this overly
long email is.. "when the hell
> > > will 503 meet again??"   The last
Saturday in August, 08/25/2006, we
> > > will meet at the Urban Grind with a planned
topic of Mactel: Building
> > > a Mac for $250 give or take."
> > >
> > > Not sure if this is still on but I would like
to know for sure so I
> > > don't end up showing up for nothing 
> > >
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>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Miyamoto Musashi" <musashidc503.org>
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>Yes the Mactel meeting will be in Sept. Sorry I had
slight conflict for
>time as this summer draws to an end. I'm going to
verify that we can use
>the UG site for the meeting on either the Saturday of
9.9.06 or 9.16.06
>After I have reserved the meeting location I'll send
out an update to the
>group. Until then dc503 does have the UG conference room
reserved for the
>last Saturday of this month (08.26.06) so feel free use
the space for an
>impromptu meeting 
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>l8rz,
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>-musashi
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> > Mactel is definately pushed back into Sept ..
likely a couple or so
> > weeks in as the September meeting, so the idea of
an August meeting on
> > WEP/WPA or .. whatever interesting .. sounds good
to me
> >
> > == c0n_
> >
> >
> > On 8/23/06, Jomama <tirebitergmail.com> wrote:
> >> Last I heard from Mushasi,
> >> We were going to wait for Sept. for the next
meeting.
> >> But if you got something great like Mac on
intel. I'll be there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/23/06, Joren Love <lovecomplexgmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I remember a meeting being scheduled for
this coming saturday (the
> >> > 26th.) Looking in my email I found this:
> >> >
> >> > "Final order of business in this
overly long email is.. "when the 
>hell
> >> > will 503 meet again??"   The last
Saturday in August, 08/25/2006, we
> >> > will meet at the Urban Grind with a
planned topic of Mactel: Building
> >> > a Mac for $250 give or take."
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if this is still on but I would
like to know for sure so I
> >> > don't end up showing up for nothing 
> >> >
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 So it's a little off topic, but I'd like to go rafting
before summer is 
out and I found a couple of outfitters who provide all
equipment and offer 
half day trips. The catch is, if you want to go on the
Clackamas, they 
stop doing it on September 4th. If we go on a different
river, then a 
carpool will need to be arranged. 

 Is anyone game to go with me? I had a blast when I went
rafting with some 
amateurs, except for the part where they brought no safety
equipment and 
didn't know how to rescue me. These folks haven't lost
someone in Oregon 
yet. 

The outfitters:
http://www.or
egonriver.com/Schedule.htm <-- cheaper and closer to
pdx

http://www.wildernesstrips.com/clackamas-river-
rafting.htm#choose <--- 
probably better guide:person ratio

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If you want a mild rafting trip on the clackamas
theres no need for an outfitter.  Just put in at
McIver park near Estacada and float down to Barton
park.  It's a 6 hour tour with some impressive rapids.
 All you need  to buy is a 30-40 dollar raft and a car
at the bottom.  I have done the trip many times.

--- foodoughnut.net wrote:

>  So it's a little off topic, but I'd like to go
> rafting before summer is 
> out and I found a couple of outfitters who provide
> all equipment and offer 
> half day trips. The catch is, if you want to go on
> the Clackamas, they 
> stop doing it on September 4th. If we go on a
> different river, then a 
> carpool will need to be arranged. 
> 
>  Is anyone game to go with me? I had a blast when I
> went rafting with some 
> amateurs, except for the part where they brought no
> safety equipment and 
> didn't know how to rescue me. These folks haven't
> lost someone in Oregon 
> yet. 
> 
> The outfitters:
> http://www.or
egonriver.com/Schedule.htm <-- cheaper
> and closer to pdx
> 
>
http://www.wildernesstrips.com/clackamas-river-
rafting.htm#choose
> <--- 
> probably better guide:person ratio
> 
> -- 
> ~phoo~
> 
> All the freaky people make the beauty of the world.
> 
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foodoughnut.net wrote:
>  So it's a little off topic, but I'd like to go
rafting before summer is 
> out and I found a couple of outfitters who provide all
equipment and offer 
> half day trips. The catch is, if you want to go on the
Clackamas, they 
> stop doing it on September 4th. If we go on a different
river, then a 
> carpool will need to be arranged. 
>
>  Is anyone game to go with me? I had a blast when I
went rafting with some 
> amateurs, except for the part where they brought no
safety equipment and 
> didn't know how to rescue me. These folks haven't
lost someone in Oregon 
> yet. 
>
> The outfitters:
> http://www.or
egonriver.com/Schedule.htm <-- cheaper and closer to
pdx
>
> http://www.wildernesstrips.com/clackamas-river-
rafting.htm#choose <--- 
> probably better guide:person ratio
>
>   
Hey,

The idea of putting in at McIver park is a REAL bad idea for
novices. 
There is a powerful set of rapids up there that they call
'The Toilet Bowl'

Now if we wanted to put in at Barton Park or the Carver boat
ramp..thats 
a different story. I've made that run a TON of times and
theres 
definitely no guide required. That would be fun.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Telco wrote:

> The idea of putting in at McIver park is a REAL bad
idea for novices. 
> There is a powerful set of rapids up there that they
call 'The Toilet Bowl'
> 
> Now if we wanted to put in at Barton Park or the Carver
boat ramp..thats 
> a different story. I've made that run a TON of times
and theres 
> definitely no guide required. That would be fun.

 The reason I was going for an outfitters initially is this:
 
 I went with some "experienced" amateurs before
and besides the river not 
being adequately scouted (so it was more intense than we
expected), things 
were great up until I needed rescuing off of a rock in the
middle of the 
river. None of us had helmets on and the attitude was mostly
towards 
self-rescue. No rope, no experience in rescue and while
taking newbies on 
what turned out to be a technical class III or III+ river
made for an 
"interesting" ride. Needless to say, I'm
looking for something a little 
less "exciting" for my next trip.

 By going to an outfitters, people who can be sued if
someone does not 
make it back, who are therefore all about safety would be a
good way to 
reinforce the positive aspects of my previous trip, rather
than 
remembering the fearful aspects next time I encounter
rapids.

 Having said that, I would be happy to go on another amateur
trip as long 
as I have a helmet and know that someone has the equipment
and knowledge 
to perform/assist in a rescue if necessary. Also, a bigger
boat (the 
previous trip was in an inflatable kayak) would probably
make classIII 
rapids more fun and less terrifying. 

I am just *itching* to do more outdoorsy things before
school starts.

-- 
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