Status and Agenda for the ODF Weekend

Hi everybody,

The ODF Weekend is shaping up fine.  We have at this time 16
confirmed 
participants, which is the at the limit of what the KDAB
office space holds, 
according to Mirko. One person *cough*isaac*cough* still
hasn't told me 
wether he'll be there or not, but I hope to get that soon.

Recapitulation
The KOffice ODF hack weekend will take place sat-sun May
12th-13th in the KDAB 
offices in Berlin.

The participants are:

Name		Representing (mainly)
-------------------------------------------------
Maintainers:
David Faure	KoLibs
Thomas Zander	KWord
Ariya Hidayat	KSpread
Thorsten Zachman	KPresenter, Kivio
Jan Hambrecht	Karbon
Boudewijn Rempt	Krita
Inge Wallin	KChart, organizer
Alfredo Beaumont	KFormula

Nobody from KPlato nor Kugar has shown any interest, but
then, they don't have 
an ODF format to code for.  Nevertheless, if anybody would
be interested in 
representing these components, I'm sure we can find work for
them too, even 
if the space is running low.

Other developers:
Martin Pfeiffer	KFormula
Sebastian Sauer	Kross
Philip Rodriques	Documentation, testing
Anne-Marie Mahfouf	Website, testing, documentation
Tobias Koenig	Okular
Aaron Seigo	Kdelibs

Other people:
Claire Lotion	Organizer
Jos Poortlivet	Press coverage

As you can see, we have a very strong showing! We are
especially excited to 
have Tobias Koenig from Okular and Aaron Seigo representing
kdelibs with us. 
The reason for that is that they wanted to discuss how we
can design our ODF 
support to let other applications in KDE use it. Eventually,
we might be able 
to offer ODF support for all of KDE with a module like the
current 
kdepimlibs. This will definitely not go into KDE 4.0,
(except for Okular?), 
but perhaps for 4.1 and beyond.

Now to the proposed agenda. David Faure has been nice enough
to offer a 
tutorial of ODF at large and of the support classes within
the Koffice 
libraries. He expects the tutorial to take around 1 hour,
but we expect the 
session to be longer, since it's bound to generate
discussion about design, 
present and future.

My view is that this is will be the defining meeting for ODF
in KOffice *and* 
KDE for a very long future. Nevertheless, we should try to
get as much 
hacking and actual implementation done as possible.

Most people (in fact everybody, as it looks now) will arrive
on friday, but I 
don't know at what time. Therefore I propose an early start
on saturday. The 
weekend is not long and we have a lot to accomplish.

Proposed agenda:
Saturday 09:00	Welcome	, important facts		Claire and Inge
	09:30	Tutorial: ODF in KOffice		David Faure
	10:30	pause
	10:45	Q&A, discussions			Led by David
	12:00	Lunch
	13:00	Hacking begins, with lots of spontaneous meetings
	18-ish	Dinner

Sunday	early	Hacking and spontaneous meetings
	afternoon	People start packing and leave when they have
to.

One thing we could discuss, and that I want people's input
on is this: Should 
we start the formal agenda with the tutorial already on
friday? For this to 
work, people have to arrive on friday already before noon.
Please, everybody 
send a mail to clairelotionkde.nl with your arrival
and departure times so 
we can see how it stands. Also please state your views on
this issue.

Equipment

I expect everybody to bring a laptop with a suitable build
environment and 
operating system.  KDAB has
been kind enough to offer us the loan of their 
laptops that they use for customer training. These are dual
core machines 
with a gigabyte of RAM, so will perform as nice compile
nodes in an icecream 
cluster. If anybody prefers to use them instead of his/her
own laptop they 
will also be available for that (right, Mirko?). The only
drawback is that 
they will perhaps not be available until saturday.

Sebastian Sauer, who lives in Berlin, has offered to set up
and prepare the 
network equipment before we arrive. Thanks, dipesh!

More details about lodging and other administrivia will be
sent out by Claire 
soon.  You can email me about technical and agenda stuff and
her about 
organizational stuff.

Well met!

	-Inge and Claire

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programmer:               |
                          |      "After three days
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ingelysator.liu.se       |       life becomes
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                          | Geoffrey James: The Tao of
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On Monday 02 April 2007 09.41, Dag Andersen wrote:
> Hi,
> Yeahh, not much interest has been  *shown* from the
kplato quarters, but I
> would have loved to have a standard odf format. I'm
afraid it takes a *lot*
> ( I mean a *lot*) of legwork to make a useful proposal.
(Some even thinks
> it's impossible). I'm allready running like mad to get
kplato into a useful
> state, so I absolutely have no chance at all to also
look at standardizing
> the file format :(

I hope you didn't take my remark as some sort of criticism. 
It was merely an 
explanation. I think that KPlato has taken a very big step
forward, and I 
look forward to writing a wordy announcement about it. 

> I have sort of hoped somebody would step forward and do
that work. There is
> quite a lot of interest in *having* a standard, but so
far noone has
> volunteered to actually do anything about it.

I think that David Faure would be the person to talk to
here, regarding what 
needs to be done and suggestions about how to do it.  

	-Inge

> Fredag 30 marts 2007 11:07 skrev Inge Wallin:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > The ODF Weekend is shaping up fine.  We have at
this time 16 confirmed
> > participants, which is the at the limit of what
the KDAB office space
> > holds, according to Mirko. One person
*cough*isaac*cough* still hasn't
> > told me wether he'll be there or not, but I hope
to get that soon.
> >
> > Recapitulation
> > The KOffice ODF hack weekend will take place
sat-sun May 12th-13th in the
> > KDAB offices in Berlin.
> >
> > The participants are:
> >
> > Name		Representing (mainly)
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Maintainers:
> > David Faure	KoLibs
> > Thomas Zander	KWord
> > Ariya Hidayat	KSpread
> > Thorsten Zachman	KPresenter, Kivio
> > Jan Hambrecht	Karbon
> > Boudewijn Rempt	Krita
> > Inge Wallin	KChart, organizer
> > Alfredo Beaumont	KFormula
> >
> > Nobody from KPlato nor Kugar has shown any
interest, but then, they don't
> > have an ODF format to code for.  Nevertheless, if
anybody would be
> > interested in representing these components, I'm
sure we can find work
> > for them too, even if the space is running low.
> >
> > Other developers:
> > Martin Pfeiffer	KFormula
> > Sebastian Sauer	Kross
> > Philip Rodriques	Documentation, testing
> > Anne-Marie Mahfouf	Website, testing,
documentation
> > Tobias Koenig	Okular
> > Aaron Seigo	Kdelibs
> >
> > Other people:
> > Claire Lotion	Organizer
> > Jos Poortlivet	Press coverage
> >
> > As you can see, we have a very strong showing! We
are especially excited
> > to have Tobias Koenig from Okular and Aaron Seigo
representing kdelibs
> > with us. The reason for that is that they wanted
to discuss how we can
> > design our ODF support to let other applications
in KDE use it.
> > Eventually, we might be able to offer ODF support
for all of KDE with a
> > module like the current kdepimlibs. This will
definitely not go into KDE
> > 4.0, (except for Okular?), but perhaps for 4.1 and
beyond.
> >
> > Now to the proposed agenda. David Faure has been
nice enough to offer a
> > tutorial of ODF at large and of the support
classes within the Koffice
> > libraries. He expects the tutorial to take around
1 hour, but we expect
> > the session to be longer, since it's bound to
generate discussion about
> > design, present and future.
> >
> > My view is that this is will be the defining
meeting for ODF in KOffice
> > *and* KDE for a very long future. Nevertheless, we
should try to get as
> > much hacking and actual implementation done as
possible.
> >
> > Most people (in fact everybody, as it looks now)
will arrive on friday,
> > but I don't know at what time. Therefore I propose
an early start on
> > saturday. The weekend is not long and we have a
lot to accomplish.
> >
> > Proposed agenda:
> > Saturday 09:00	Welcome	, important facts		Claire
and Inge
> > 	09:30	Tutorial: ODF in KOffice		David Faure
> > 	10:30	pause
> > 	10:45	Q&A, discussions			Led by David
> > 	12:00	Lunch
> > 	13:00	Hacking begins, with lots of spontaneous
meetings
> > 	18-ish	Dinner
> >
> > Sunday	early	Hacking and spontaneous meetings
> > 	afternoon	People start packing and leave when
they have to.
> >
> > One thing we could discuss, and that I want
people's input on is this:
> > Should we start the formal agenda with the
tutorial already on friday?
> > For this to work, people have to arrive on friday
already before noon.
> > Please, everybody send a mail to clairelotionkde.nl
with your arrival
> > and departure times so we can see how it stands.
Also please state your
> > views on this issue.
> >
> > Equipment
> >
> > I expect everybody to bring a laptop with a
suitable build environment
> > and operating system.  KDAB has
been kind enough to offer us the loan
> > of their laptops that they use for customer
training. These are dual core
> > machines with a gigabyte of RAM, so will perform
as nice compile nodes in
> > an icecream cluster. If anybody prefers to use
them instead of his/her
> > own laptop they will also be available for that
(right, Mirko?). The only
> > drawback is that they will perhaps not be
available until saturday.
> >
> > Sebastian Sauer, who lives in Berlin, has offered
to set up and prepare
> > the network equipment before we arrive. Thanks,
dipesh!
> >
> > More details about lodging and other administrivia
will be sent out by
> > Claire soon.  You can email me about technical and
agenda stuff and her
> > about organizational stuff.
> >
> > Well met!
> >
> > 	-Inge and Claire

-- 
Inge Wallin               | Thus spake the master
programmer:               |
                          |      "After three days
without programming,     |
ingelysator.liu.se       |       life becomes
meaningless."                |
                          | Geoffrey James: The Tao of
Programming.         |
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Mandag 02 april 2007 16:46 skrev Inge Wallin:
> On Monday 02 April 2007 09.41, Dag Andersen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Yeahh, not much interest has been  *shown* from
the kplato quarters, but
> > I would have loved to have a standard odf format.
I'm afraid it takes a
> > *lot* ( I mean a *lot*) of legwork to make a
useful proposal. (Some even
> > thinks it's impossible). I'm allready running like
mad to get kplato into
> > a useful state, so I absolutely have no chance at
all to also look at
> > standardizing the file format :(
>
> I hope you didn't take my remark as some sort of
criticism.  It was merely
Not at all! But maybe this will tickle somebodys urge to
jump in ?
> an explanation. I think that KPlato has taken a very
big step forward, and
> I look forward to writing a wordy announcement about
it. 
Yeahh, there is a lot to do still, though. Some bigger
things, and a lot of 
gui cleanup to make it usable. I'm not at all as far ahead
as I hoped to be.
But, well, hope for the best, and ehh, hope for the best

>
> > I have sort of hoped somebody would step forward
and do that work. There
> > is quite a lot of interest in *having* a standard,
but so far noone has
> > volunteered to actually do anything about it.
>
> I think that David Faure would be the person to talk to
here, regarding
> what needs to be done and suggestions about how to do
it.
>
> 	-Inge
>
> > Fredag 30 marts 2007 11:07 skrev Inge Wallin:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > The ODF Weekend is shaping up fine.  We have
at this time 16 confirmed
> > > participants, which is the at the limit of
what the KDAB office space
> > > holds, according to Mirko. One person
*cough*isaac*cough* still hasn't
> > > told me wether he'll be there or not, but I
hope to get that soon.
> > >
> > > Recapitulation
> > > The KOffice ODF hack weekend will take place
sat-sun May 12th-13th in
> > > the KDAB offices in Berlin.
> > >
> > > The participants are:
> > >
> > > Name		Representing (mainly)
> > >
-------------------------------------------------
> > > Maintainers:
> > > David Faure	KoLibs
> > > Thomas Zander	KWord
> > > Ariya Hidayat	KSpread
> > > Thorsten Zachman	KPresenter, Kivio
> > > Jan Hambrecht	Karbon
> > > Boudewijn Rempt	Krita
> > > Inge Wallin	KChart, organizer
> > > Alfredo Beaumont	KFormula
> > >
> > > Nobody from KPlato nor Kugar has shown any
interest, but then, they
> > > don't have an ODF format to code for. 
Nevertheless, if anybody would
> > > be interested in representing these
components, I'm sure we can find
> > > work for them too, even if the space is
running low.
> > >
> > > Other developers:
> > > Martin Pfeiffer	KFormula
> > > Sebastian Sauer	Kross
> > > Philip Rodriques	Documentation, testing
> > > Anne-Marie Mahfouf	Website, testing,
documentation
> > > Tobias Koenig	Okular
> > > Aaron Seigo	Kdelibs
> > >
> > > Other people:
> > > Claire Lotion	Organizer
> > > Jos Poortlivet	Press coverage
> > >
> > > As you can see, we have a very strong
showing! We are especially
> > > excited to have Tobias Koenig from Okular and
Aaron Seigo representing
> > > kdelibs with us. The reason for that is that
they wanted to discuss how
> > > we can design our ODF support to let other
applications in KDE use it.
> > > Eventually, we might be able to offer ODF
support for all of KDE with a
> > > module like the current kdepimlibs. This will
definitely not go into
> > > KDE 4.0, (except for Okular?), but perhaps
for 4.1 and beyond.
> > >
> > > Now to the proposed agenda. David Faure has
been nice enough to offer a
> > > tutorial of ODF at large and of the support
classes within the Koffice
> > > libraries. He expects the tutorial to take
around 1 hour, but we expect
> > > the session to be longer, since it's bound to
generate discussion about
> > > design, present and future.
> > >
> > > My view is that this is will be the defining
meeting for ODF in KOffice
> > > *and* KDE for a very long future.
Nevertheless, we should try to get as
> > > much hacking and actual implementation done
as possible.
> > >
> > > Most people (in fact everybody, as it looks
now) will arrive on friday,
> > > but I don't know at what time. Therefore I
propose an early start on
> > > saturday. The weekend is not long and we have
a lot to accomplish.
> > >
> > > Proposed agenda:
> > > Saturday 09:00	Welcome	, important
facts		Claire and Inge
> > > 	09:30	Tutorial: ODF in KOffice		David Faure
> > > 	10:30	pause
> > > 	10:45	Q&A, discussions			Led by David
> > > 	12:00	Lunch
> > > 	13:00	Hacking begins, with lots of
spontaneous meetings
> > > 	18-ish	Dinner
> > >
> > > Sunday	early	Hacking and spontaneous
meetings
> > > 	afternoon	People start packing and leave
when they have to.
> > >
> > > One thing we could discuss, and that I want
people's input on is this:
> > > Should we start the formal agenda with the
tutorial already on friday?
> > > For this to work, people have to arrive on
friday already before noon.
> > > Please, everybody send a mail to
clairelotionkde.nl with your arrival
> > > and departure times so we can see how it
stands. Also please state your
> > > views on this issue.
> > >
> > > Equipment
> > >
> > > I expect everybody to bring a laptop with a
suitable build environment
> > > and operating system.  KDAB has
been kind enough to offer us the
> > > loan of their laptops that they use for
customer training. These are
> > > dual core machines with a gigabyte of RAM, so
will perform as nice
> > > compile nodes in an icecream cluster. If
anybody prefers to use them
> > > instead of his/her own laptop they will also
be available for that
> > > (right, Mirko?). The only drawback is that
they will perhaps not be
> > > available until saturday.
> > >
> > > Sebastian Sauer, who lives in Berlin, has
offered to set up and prepare
> > > the network equipment before we arrive.
Thanks, dipesh!
> > >
> > > More details about lodging and other
administrivia will be sent out by
> > > Claire soon.  You can email me about
technical and agenda stuff and her
> > > about organizational stuff.
> > >
> > > Well met!
> > >
> > > 	-Inge and Claire

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Mvh
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