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Re: list of orphaned / RFA games
country flaguser name
United States
2008-01-11 09:50:46
Uwe Hermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:34:05PM +0100, Lucas
Nussbaum wrote:
>   
>>>> scottfree -- Interpreter for Adventure
International games
>>>>         
>>> No upstream update since 1998?  Removal?
>>>       
>> Ack, RMed
>>     
>
> NACK, ITA'd.
>  
>
>   
Are you going to bring it in to the games team?  I was going
to do that 
this morning.
>>>> sarien -- An interpreter for AGI resources
>>>>         
>>> Probably should be removed.  Sounds like
scummvm has replaced it.
>>>       
>> requested.
>>     
>
> Did you check whether there are games which work in
sarien but not in
> scummvm (yet)?
>
>
>   
>>>> quake2 -- improved version of id Software's
Quake II engine
>>>>         
>>> I filed an ITA but should probably be removed.
>>>       
>> ack, RM requested.
>>     
>
> Is another quake2 engine available in Debian which you
can use to play
> the original game data (and/or the shareware data)? I
don't want this to
> be removed if there's no alternative. If nobody else
steps up I might
> volunteer to maintain it.
>
>   
It has an RC bug that can't be fixed from people that I have
talked 
too.  What good is that going to do?  If it is that
important, let's 
package another engine quickly.

>   
>>>> nagi -- game interpreter for Sierra Online
(tm) AGI games
>>>>         
>>> Also replaced by scummvm?
>>>       
>> RM requested.
>>     
>
> Did you check whether there are games which work in
nagi but not in
> scummvm (yet)?
>
>   
No, I asked the question, I didn't ask for the removal.
>   
>>>> pouetchess -- 3D chess game
>>>>         
>>> Probably should be removed.  We already have
3dchess and dreamchess which 
>>> at least work properly.
>>>       
>> ack, RM requested.
>>     
>
> NACK, ITA'd.
>
>   
Why?

> Uwe.
>   


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Re: list of orphaned / RFA games
country flaguser name
Germany
2008-01-11 10:25:07
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:50:46AM -0500, Barry deFreese
wrote:
>>>>> scottfree -- Interpreter for Adventure
International games
>>>>>         
>>>> No upstream update since 1998?  Removal?
>>>>       
>>> Ack, RMed
>>>     
>>
>> NACK, ITA'd.
>>  
>>
>>   
> Are you going to bring it in to the games team?  I was
going to do that  
> this morning.

OK, no problem. Consider my ITA obsolete, feel free to adopt
it.


>>>>> quake2 -- improved version of id
Software's Quake II engine
>>>>>         
>>>> I filed an ITA but should probably be
removed.
>>>>       
>>> ack, RM requested.
>>>     
>>
>> Is another quake2 engine available in Debian which
you can use to play
>> the original game data (and/or the shareware data)?
I don't want this to
>> be removed if there's no alternative. If nobody
else steps up I might
>> volunteer to maintain it.
>>
>>   
> It has an RC bug that can't be fixed from people that I
have talked too.  

Which one?

There's some security bug I found, but that has some patches
or at least
a patch which warns you about the security risks. Also, the
bug is in
the game server AFAICS, so single-player mode should not be
affected.

Either way, pretty much all games in Debian must be assumed
to have
security bugs, but that's no reason to remove the package.
On a box
where security plays an important role (server etc) no sane
admin would
install games anyway - for very good reasons.


> What good is that going to do?

What good is removing the package going to do?


> If it is that important, let's package another engine
quickly.

As soon as there's another engine in unstable/testing which
allows you to play the original game without any
regressions
compared to the quake2 package -- why not... But that's not
the case
yet, AFAIK, so IMO the package should stay.


>>>>> nagi -- game interpreter for Sierra
Online (tm) AGI games
>>>>>         
>>>> Also replaced by scummvm?
>>>>       
>>> RM requested.
>>>     
>>
>> Did you check whether there are games which work in
nagi but not in
>> scummvm (yet)?
>>
>>   
> No, I asked the question, I didn't ask for the
removal.

Ah, yes, the question was more directed at Lucas Nussbaum,
sorry.

  
>>>>> pouetchess -- 3D chess game
>>>>>         
>>>> Probably should be removed.  We already
have 3dchess and dreamchess 
>>>> which at least work properly.
>>>>       
>>> ack, RM requested.
>>>     
>>
>> NACK, ITA'd.
>>   
> Why?

Because it's a nice game and I want to maintain it? "We
already have
3dchess and dreamchess" is no reason for removal,
neither is "there's a
bug in the code". Bugs can be fixed.


Cheers, Uwe.
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