Punt DA to 2.18, NewStuffManager as a separate module in GNOME 2.18??

Here's some points that I'm writing down before I forget,
and maybe
I'll add some more later.

* NewStuffManager (henceforth NSM) is pretty cool.  People
are liking
the idea, and e.g. Epiphany folks are interested in using
it.

* I still have security concerns about the current
implementation, and
these concerns will not be resolved by the 2.16 time frame.

* Somebody suggested that NSM is quite similar to KDE's Get
Hot New
Stuff (http://dot.kde.org/111
0652641/).  Perhaps we should collaborate
/ merge / get funky under the freedesktop.org umbrella.

* We are in 2.16 UI Freeze and approaching String Freeze. 
Messing
around with the preferences dialog at this point will break
these
freezes.

* One option is to punt all this new goodness for another 6
months
(GNOME 2.18) to really make this puppy shine (and to get out
of
freeze).  On the downside, this would mean that there's
nothing new in
stable deskbar-applet for another 6 months.


Thoughts??
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Nigel Tao wrote:
> Here's some points that I'm writing down before I
forget, and maybe
> I'll add some more later.
>
> * NewStuffManager (henceforth NSM) is pretty cool. 
People are liking
> the idea, and e.g. Epiphany folks are interested in
using it.
>
> * I still have security concerns about the current
implementation, and
> these concerns will not be resolved by the 2.16 time
frame.
>
You're absolutly right. We have to think the security issue
over.

> * Somebody suggested that NSM is quite similar to
KDE's Get Hot New
> Stuff (http://dot.kde.org/111
0652641/).  Perhaps we should collaborate
> / merge / get funky under the freedesktop.org umbrella.
>
I only had a brief look at it. Seems to me that it's
intended to be a
platform for sharing documents. Not exactly what we have in
mind.

> * We are in 2.16 UI Freeze and approaching String
Freeze.  Messing
> around with the preferences dialog at this point will
break these
> freezes.
>
Ah, I didn't know that. Therefore, work on NSM should be
almost done :/

> * One option is to punt all this new goodness for
another 6 months
> (GNOME 2.18) to really make this puppy shine (and to
get out of
> freeze).  On the downside, this would mean that
there's nothing new in
> stable deskbar-applet for another 6 months.
>
Sounds somewhat reasonable, especially because of the
security issue.
But I can't decide if it's better to leave NSM out of the
release or
ship it in a somewhat incomplete state.

On the one hand, we don't really know if it's stable or
has some major
security holes we don't know about. In addition, we could
use the new
dbus bindings in the 2.18 release I guess. This would be the
biggest
point for me as programmer to postpone the release, because
the current
python bindings don't support destroying a dbus object.
Actually, I
didn't looked at the new ones, but I think I heard
something that this
issue is solved.

On the other hand, we would show the users that we are
really making
process and that makes them happy.

All in all, I must say I tend to postpone the release,
because I don't
want to be sorry for what I've done if it's out there and
buggy.

- --
Greetings,
Sebastian Pölsterl
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