Hi there,
I liked this email because it reminded me of a set of
things,
that I'd like to share.
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:18:12PM -0600, Alan Carvalho de
Assis wrote:
> Hi Michal,
>
> On 9/29/06, Michal Nowak <xnowak01 stud.fit.vutbr.cz> wrote:
> >Hi Alan,
> >
> >well I am not sure how you could do it
i(=desktopfloppy) but I think
> >Dillo will be quite large with staticaly linked
with fltk2.
> >
> Do you know how large is it?
>
> >May I ask you, how many space have you got on the
floppy? Or you mean
> >"the floppy" (1.4 MiB)? It would be great
proof of concept...
>
> Well, I am formatting it at 1.74 MB, and I will use
compressed fs
> (squashfs).
> I think it will get ~ 3MB.
>
> Kernel: ~ 600KB (I am using kernel-tiny patch)
> Kdrive: ~ 600KB (I am using uClibc)
> Dillo-fltk: < 1.8 MB
jcidinfinity:~/C/Dillo/proto/dillo-f15/src$ v dillo-fltk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jcid users 826768 Oct 2 12:33 dillo-fltk*
This is 820KB. It fits! 
(It has a statically linked FLTK2)
>
> >The troubles with funds... it's quite longstanding
problem. Dillo neads
> >fulltime dev or two. There are companies which has
Dillo build in their
> >products and sold them, well, that's OK, but thay
give nothing back...
> >just sitting and waiting for Jorge. Comunity of
Dillo is rather small,
> >people from developed countrie have fast computers
-> lack of hunger for
> >such think Dillo is. Probably nobody will pay for
releasing "another
> >browser", coz hey have ff, opera, konq etc.
>
> Dillo will be the best option for cheap linux cell
phones. Then when
> these cell phone companies realise it is a best option
it will invest.
> To do it we need emphasize Dillo qualities: the faster
browser ever,
> the smallest footprint, etc.
A long time ago I thought that if I was able to build a
small
and efficient browser like Dillo I could _demonstrate_ my
point
that internet access can be made much cheaper, and
that the
Hardware, Software and Bandwidth requirements were
inflated to
exploit the market in a more profitable point.
I was right!
I also thought that once this was demonstrated, it was
going to
be easy to get support from the government, or technology
funds,
or digital divide funds.
But, I was wrong here, and I learnt it the hard way.
The problem was not the lack of the technology! The
problem was
the huge economical interests, corruption and greed.
Those participating in this thread, please read this
interview
I gave in 2002. It explains the underlying topics very well:
http://www.dillo.
org/interview.html
> >But you can help Dillo with submitting code, if ou
want to .
>
> Doing a small linux distro I will help to demonstre as
powerful dillo
> is. And it will demonstre too the small dillo
footprint.
This is demonstrated already (of course it would
make a
beautiful showcase).
The bottom line is:
What we need to find is a source of funds that's
above the
second barrier, stated above.
--
Cheers
Jorge.-
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