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Protection in Projectors
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2005-12-30 04:36:34
Hi Danny, it seems like no one else will reply, I thought
that there were
  more people using projectors out there.
  
  >This all sounds like overkill to me - you're going to
end up locking out 
  >people who have a legitimate right to use the
software. What exactly is it 
  >that you think they might be doing? How is your
software protected in the 
  >first place? How do they register it? (Is it
registered with a key? Is that 
  >key stored in the registry somewhere? etc). Does it
have an online element?
  
  I just wanted to be sure that it was at least a bit hard
to crack, and I wanted
  to learn about security in projectors.
  Currently after the user has payed a license an automatic
license key is sent
  to the user's email. That license key is generated
accoding to some information
  about the user by a php script. After that, the user can
put his name and serial in
  the soft and it just unlocks and starts running as full
version. It's  not super secure because it just generate 2
different files with the  license inside. Someone
  could just copy the files to his folder and he will have a
full  version. I don't know how to fight against that. I
don't know if use  something like an online activation as
Norton antivirus does. If you  know of a good way please let
me know. Also I don't know much about how  to modify the
register and if it's a good method either.
  
  >on checkForHack
  >global myCommunicationObject
  >tCheck=myCommunicationObject.amIOK()
  >end

  Thanks for that idea, I added that to my code a bit
modified to work better.
  I don't know if someone can get the handlers name or
properties of my 
  communication object? Hope not!
  
  BTW, I tried using Armadillo to protect my projectors but
sadly it doesnt work in 
  any way. If someone has any experience about it please let
me know!
  
  Minyer
  
  
Danny Kodicek <dragonwell-spring.co.uk>
wrote:  
> Hi! it's me again
>
>  I'm wishing to know which things should one protect in
the case of
>  projectors, I'm rather newbie to the projectors world,
I never used them
>  before.
>
>  Here's what I did until now:
>
>  I'm checking for files whose name contains .INI and in
case of finding
>  one, I call QUIT
>
>  The same for filenames containing the words, patch,
crack, serial, keygen
>
>  In case I find too much .EXE files I also quit the
projector.

This all sounds like overkill to me - you're going to end up
locking out 
people who have a legitimate right to use the software. What
exactly is it 
that you think they might be doing? How is your software
protected in the 
first place? How do they register it? (Is it registered with
a key? Is that 
key stored in the registry somewhere? etc). Does it have an
online element?

If you're concerned about hacking using ini files, then just
setting the 
debugplaybackenabled to false should be enough. There's
nothing else that I 
think an ini file is particularly useful for.

>  After that it just does  go to movie game.dcr
>
>  I'm using 5 different .DCR files in my game. Should I
use .dcr instead? I 
> don't
>  know what the difference is, and which one I should
use in this case.

This is where you're going to find the more serious security
holes. Each dcr 
file is self-contained, and someone else could open them up
as an LDM and 
get all kinds of info from them. So the most important thing
is to ensure 
that each dcr file contains its own security. One simple
method might be to 
have the movie not work unless your global communication
object is 
initialised. Try this:

on checkForHack
global myCommunicationObject
tCheck=myCommunicationObject.amIOK()
end

If the object is not initialised, this will bomb out with an
error and the 
movie won't work. It's not perfect, but it should do the
job.

Note that the *only* thing that's secure in a dcr is the
scripts. All the 
media are available to be hacked. And incidentally, dcr's
are more secure 
than dxr's: variable names and a few other details are
visible in the .dxr 
file.

Danny 

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Protection in Projectors
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2005-12-30 04:51:47
 
On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 08:40PM, Minyer Jolibem
<jolibemyahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi Danny, it seems like no one else will reply, I
thought that there were
>  more people using projectors out there.

Naah, it's probably like we don't know how to do what it is
you want off of the tops of our heads.

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Protection in Projectors
user name
2005-12-30 05:53:55
Zav, I don't even know you, but I'm sad to read that. I
don't think that I 
  was asking for a DIRECT answer to something. Just thought
that this
  was a list where when you need some opinions or
suggestions from
  someone that has better experience you can ask. Sorry if
this has
  some kind of different rules to other lists (im new here).
In other case
  you and no other has to reply my post. I think I was just
commenting
  my own experience and the methods which I'm using and
asked to
  know if someone from his own experience could help a bit.
Thanks for
  your good mood Zav anyway.
  
  BTW, Danny, I forgot to say that I was making
  the actorlist = [] on startmovie because I thought that
someone could
  add his own script from an on startup event and execute
every stepframe
  and maybe do something bad. Perhaps this can't be done.
  
  

A Zavatone <zavpublicmac.com> wrote:   
On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 08:40PM, Minyer Jolibem 
wrote:

>Hi Danny, it seems like no one else will reply, I
thought that there were
>  more people using projectors out there.

Naah, it's probably like we don't know how to do what it is
you want off of the tops of our heads.

- Zav
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Protection in Projectors
user name
2005-12-30 09:53:16
Hi Minyer,

Have a look at this Xtra...
htt
p://www.director-xtras.com/xtra-ecommerce.html

I've used it in the past, and it works great!

>Hi Danny, it seems like no one else will reply, I
thought that there were
>  more people using projectors out there.
>  
>
Most of the list are either on holidays, or are in holiday
crunch mode, 
so the traffic is low at the mo.

Mal
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Protection in Projectors
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2005-12-30 10:22:21
 
On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 09:58PM, Minyer Jolibem
<jolibemyahoo.com> wrote:

>Zav, I don't even know you, but I'm sad to read that. I
don't think that I 
>  was asking for a DIRECT answer to something. Just
thought that this
>  was a list where when you need some opinions or
suggestions from
>  someone that has better experience you can ask. Sorry
if this has
>  some kind of different rules to other lists (im new
here). In other case
>  you and no other has to reply my post. I think I was
just commenting
>  my own experience and the methods which I'm using and
asked to
>  know if someone from his own experience could help a
bit. Thanks for
>  your good mood Zav anyway.

Well, I'm replying from a night out of refreshing enjoyment
but after reading your original email, I thought I said that
"off the top of our heads, most of don't have an
answer."

That's honest and if you'd let us buy you a drink, friendly.

As for a direction on to your answer which is actually what
you asked, I'm sure the same applies for most of us, minus
myself, of course, are rated high on the consumer reports
Friendly Poster Ranking.

Now Danny, AS WE ALL KNOW is a rather shifty character as
evidenced by his love of the shift key.  Please do not let
Danny's cooperation be representative of the rest of us as
Danny is a veritable reference model of cooperation and
helpfulnessiosity.  

That is a word.  I looked it up.

Um, Cheers.
- Zav
:p
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