good game

All,

> I mean given another couple of years sw3d will be so
behind the 
> expectations let alone the state of the art for 3D,
that I feel it
> will becoming increasingly more difficult to sell it to
clients. 

I don't see us as having "another couple of
years" in any way, we have
12-18 months at the most and if nothing in terms of forward
development
is seen by then I fear we'll have lost any and all chance
at retaining
3D content developers in Director. There are some
interesting
discussions going on around here as of late, I've been
chatting a bit
with the Acrobat 3D crew as we're sizing things up and
seeing how me
might work together, but until I have product plans to share
with y'all
that doesn't amount to much. My only point here is that I
think the time
is NOW (ok, the time for an update was last year, or the
year before
that even... :P ) for us to move on 3D in Director or else.


> Yeah, this is pretty sad. Steve's site
www.shockwave3d.com is
> a great resource since you can easily see how far along
SW3D
> has come. But it would be even better if Macrodobe
> ran/sponsored a similar site themselves. 
> 
> ...
> 
> I think it would go a long way if Macrdobe linked to a
few 3d 
> game demos on the Director product page to really
show-off
> what's possible to clients and end-users.

Honestly, I just don't know that I see that sort of thing
happening, at
least not via some alternate domain/site it won't. I agree
that we need
to update our core product pages a bit but that's part of
what we're
working on now. I don't know that we'll be doing a lot
with the old
macromedia.com domain so much as I'm talking with folks
about how we'll
organize things on adobe.com. For example, I want us to
focus on a few
specific markets for Director and Shockwave with one of
those core
elements being game/simulation training developers, that
would
necessarily require the kinds of content references you're
talking
about. Our product pages need updating in a lot of ways...
:/


Cheers,
Tom Higgins | Product Manager | Director & the Shockwave
Player
Adobe Systems Incorporated

http://weblog
s.macromedia.com/thiggins/

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On 2/20/06, Thomas Higgins wrote:
>All,
>
>>  I mean given another couple of years sw3d will be
so behind the
>>  expectations let alone the state of the art for
3D, that I feel it
>>  will becoming increasingly more difficult to sell
it to clients.
>
>I don't see us as having "another couple of
years" in any way, we have
>12-18 months at the most and if nothing in terms of
forward development
>is seen by then I fear we'll have lost any and all
chance at retaining
>3D content developers in Director.

I'm doing perhaps 50% of my work in Director 3D right now.

It is my belief that the original problem was the original
XTRA 
wasn't seen to be immediately adopted.

I think my case was pretty representative: Wait 6 months to
see 
what's going to happen with this new 3D stuff. Spend
another year 
getting up to speed on contemporary 3D development. Spend
another 
year attempting to find a suitable client. 6 months or more
of 
development and there you are: 2-3 years later you can see
SW3D 
projects.
The huge improvements in video cards of the last few years
have also 
had an effect on how I'm able to sell this stuff. When SW3D
first 
hit, non-gamer machines really couldn't cut it. (Although
Intel did a 
terrific job on the software render.)

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