RE: Otoy news...

I feel exactly the same about that Unity thing.
 
Until I see something that works (the only demos perform
absolutely HIDEOUSLY on anything other than a new system) I
wouldn't touch it with someone else's...
 
Unproved tech is not something to waste money on.
 
Jeff M.

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From: dirgames-l-bouncesnuttybar.drama.uga.edu on
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Sent: Sun 2/4/2007 5:46 AM
To: Director - Shockwave - and Flash Game Production
Subject: Re: [dirGames-L] Otoy news...




> Jules said : I understand the point, but obviously the
rest of the 
> engine is as good as the high end rendering side,
regarding sound, 
> dynamics etc, and of course networking

Which has to be seen first.

> have a look at the pictures on otoy.com, they are
bigger ;)
> I'll try to put bigger images tomorrow

Cool, you know it's like if you see these small
gamescreenshots and 
say wow. Once you enlarge them to a real resolution games
are 
actually played in, they aren't looking this good anymore.
Small 
stuff always looks better.

Same for the shaders and gfx...for example the tryouts i did
could 
look a whole lot better if i would have focused on getting a
stunning 
visual experience out. Combining already existing effects
more 
subtile plus some shaders and woops these things also would
look much 
better, but this wasn't the intention. The difference is
that these 
things run fluently on my crappy 9200 with 32MB! There are
worlds 
between a ATI 9200 and a ATI  X1900?.

>
> I can't tell you more about this, but the engine is
build with this 
> in mind.
>

I'm curious to see that. No offence but until you've see and
used 
such tings they smell a bit after vapourware.

> I'm "fighting" with Jules to have something
moving to show you all 
> as soon as possible ;)
> for your information , the pixar car is rendering  at
4000 fps 
> (1024x1024) on a G80 gpu and 44fps (640x480) on an old
laptop with 
> ATI 1900

As said before a ATI X1900 isn't a crappy card. It would be

interesting to see a little demonstration - no movie - a
realtime 
demo of just this. If you make a abstract one this also
doesn't cot 
too much time.

>
> A last word from Jules : "nothing is stopping a 
developer with a 
> serious motivation to contact me and sign a NDA and get
more info. 
> Many do."

I don't have the intention of using it for a project at the
moment. I 
just would be curious to see it running. Is that enough of a

motivation? I hate NDAs... :O)

Could everyone raise the hand who signed a NDA on this? :O)


Regards,

taumel
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On Feb 4, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Murray wrote:

> Until I see something that works (the only demos
perform absolutely  
> HIDEOUSLY on anything other than a new system) I
wouldn't touch it  
> with someone else's...

Can you say how this performs?:

ht
tp://staff.funnygarbage.com/colin/fg_office.html

We're moving offices at the end of this week, and I set this
up for  
people to roam around the new space, and for us to mock up
some wall  
paintings. It'll improve during the week. How does it
performa on your  
system? Use the usual FPS keys to move around, mouse look
and asdw or  
arrow keys, space bar to jump on the furniture! It is
possible to get  
stuck on the geometry, but that's a consequence of having
modeled in  
SketchUp and exported via 3DS.


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Jeff Murray a écrit :
> I feel exactly the same about that Unity thing.
>  
> Until I see something that works (the only demos
perform absolutely HIDEOUSLY on anything other than a new
system) I wouldn't touch it with someone else's...
>  
> Unproved tech is not something to waste money on.
>   
yup, I agree with you on this... unfortunately, I can't say
more without 
breaking the nda :(
I'll post a link as soon as a real time demo is available to
the public, 
until then I'm also waiting to see how unity will grow up
For now I'm absolutely not convinced by this piece of
software : I tried 
the demo and had very poor speed results with a simple test
(maybe I did 
it the wrong way, but I doubt)

bye

Alexx



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