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Shockwave 3D
user name
2007-02-05 00:58:42
You guys are all talking about unity player here it seems,
but does
that mean you have left shockwave3d for online 3d authoring
?

If I look at sites like maidmarian.com, then I can only see
that
shockwave is not that weak and with the upcomming 2007
edition
wouldn't adobe be nuts not to add anything to the 3d part ?

Does anyone here actually know anything more about director
2007 please?
maybe some features, a codename ???


Regards

Bart
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RE: Shockwave 3D
country flaguser name
New Zealand
2007-02-05 01:32:31
I dont know but all i know is i will be one of the first to
get flash 9 
director 2007 photoshop cs3,fireworks 9 im a rich bitch xD

ps.. still learning lingo xD

>From: "Bart Libert (EducaSoft BVBA)"
<educasoftgmail.com>
>Reply-To: Director - Shockwave - and Flash Game 
>Production<dirgames-lnuttybar.drama.uga.edu>
>To: dirgames-lnuttybar.drama.uga.edu
>Subject: [dirGames-L] Shockwave 3D
>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:58:42 +0100
>
>You guys are all talking about unity player here it
seems, but does
>that mean you have left shockwave3d for online 3d
authoring ?
>
>If I look at sites like maidmarian.com, then I can only
see that
>shockwave is not that weak and with the upcomming 2007
edition
>wouldn't adobe be nuts not to add anything to the 3d
part ?
>
>Does anyone here actually know anything more about
director 2007 please?
>maybe some features, a codename ???
>
>
>Regards
>
>Bart
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Re: Shockwave 3D
country flaguser name
Sweden
2007-02-05 01:40:35
Am 05.02.2007 um 07:58 schrieb Bart Libert (EducaSoft
BVBA):

> You guys are all talking about unity player here it
seems, but does
> that mean you have left shockwave3d for online 3d
authoring ?

it's more like the owner of shockwave has left us some years
ago.

>
> If I look at sites like maidmarian.com, then I can only
see that
> shockwave is not that weak and with the upcomming 2007
edition
> wouldn't adobe be nuts not to add anything to the 3d
part ?

well, they have been nuts enough to more or less ignore it
for a  
couple of years.
and rememember, that many of the decision takers at
macromedia, who  
didn't care about director much since D8.5, are now taking
decisions  
at Adobe.
I haven't seen much changes since the merger.


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Re: Shockwave 3D
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Canada
2007-02-05 12:34:01
Virtools, Unity, Otoy, Wild Tangent - none of them have been
able to crack 
an install base large enough to make them "the"
choice yet. I threw Wild 
Tangent in there because it's the perfect example of
something near death 
now that was discussed as the "next big thing" on
this mailing list in the 
past. Would Adobe be nuts not to add anything to 3D? Maybe,
but that's not 
the really important question. It's the install base that's
important. How 
ubiquitous is it? How willing are the large portals to
include games powered 
by them in thier offerings? How willing are users to install
the plug-in?

I'm content to sit on the sidelines until a clear winner
emerges. In the 
meantime Shockwave still has the largest penetration. I love
next gen 
rendering features, but I don't NEED them. In fact, when
making web games 
they can give you a distorted view of what's important and
reduce your 
effective install base. I'm not sure MaidMarian.com would
succeed without 
emerging markets like Eastern Europe and India - not places
where highend 
graphics cards are common. I think the newer boxed MMORPGs
highlight this 
really well. World of Warcraft is a fantastic looking game
relying on solid 
art direction, not next gen rendering - a stategy that made
releasing into 
China practical. EverQuest 2 and other games that made high
end rendering a 
priority have not succeded. When I worked at a console game
company, I 
remember game pitches that included rendering features as if
they were game 
features. "We'll have normal mapping and ambient
occlusion!" I was a 
Technical Art Director, so I loved that stuff - but at the
end of the day, 
it doesn't make a great game. What worse is that developers
are so blinded 
by the busy work involved with rending features that they
don't pick up on 
the fact that the gameplay sucks. I'm not saying that my
games are anything 
special, but for newer developers on this list - I'll take
ubiquity over 
next-gen rendering any day of the week.

Gene
MaidMarian.com




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bart Libert (EducaSoft BVBA)"
<educasoftgmail.com>
To: <dirgames-lnuttybar.drama.uga.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:58 PM
Subject: [dirGames-L] Shockwave 3D


> You guys are all talking about unity player here it
seems, but does
> that mean you have left shockwave3d for online 3d
authoring ?
>
> If I look at sites like maidmarian.com, then I can only
see that
> shockwave is not that weak and with the upcomming 2007
edition
> wouldn't adobe be nuts not to add anything to the 3d
part ?
>
> Does anyone here actually know anything more about
director 2007 please?
> maybe some features, a codename ???
>
>
> Regards
>
> Bart
> _______________________________________________
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> http://nuttybar.drama.uga.edu/mailman/listinfo/dirgames
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Re: Shockwave 3D
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United States
2007-02-05 13:44:26
Gene Endrody wrote:
> It's the 
> install base that's important. How ubiquitous is it?
How willing are the 
> large portals to include games powered by them in thier
offerings? How 
> willing are users to install the plug-in?

What I worry about are really basic things, like will the MU
Xtra 
continue to be updated? Since the Xtra's been officially
discontinued 
for three years now (Tech Note 16688 came out on 2/11/04),
will the new 
dev team bother to update it for Macintel or Vista
compatibility?

BTW, Gene, I noticed that about a third of the way through
the DOUG 
article on UCON 2001, there's a picture of Maid Marian in an
early stage 
from one of the presentations 
(ht
tp://director-online.com/buildArticle.php?id=984).


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