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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-29 13:25:31
Hi!

I have looked around for som language to use to learn my 9
year son 
programming.

There is a KPL - Kids Programming Language but my son
diden't grasp the
OO, GUI and everyting around this, maby becurse English is
not his spoken
language, and for a beginner i think the inviroment was to
complex.

So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn kids
this way, and 
could
giv som ide how-to.
I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,

best regards
Anders


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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-29 14:56:18
HI-

I think Python is a great choice.

You may want to have a look, as a first step, at rur-ple.  Then, as a next step (although it might be a bit steep), you may want to have a look at livewires.   This will provide a good introduction to pygame.

André

On 11/29/06, Anders Persson < anders.u.perssontelia.com">anders.u.perssontelia.com> wrote:
Hi!

I have looked around for som language to use to learn my 9 year son
programming.

There is a KPL - Kids Programming Language but my son diden't grasp the
OO, GUI and everyting around this, maby becurse English is not his spoken
language, and for a beginner i think the inviroment was to complex.

So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn kids this way, and
could
giv som ide how-to.
I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,

best regards
Anders


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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-29 18:31:04
Hi,
 &nbsp;  Playing with Guido Van Robot http://gvr.sf.net is another good option to teach programming to young ones. Rurple is just another graphic representation of the gvr.
&nbsp;
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Senthil
 


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HI-

I think Python is a great choice.

You may want to have a look, as a first step, at rur-ple.&nbsp; Then, as a next step (although it might be a bit steep), you may want to have a look at livewires. &nbsp; This will provide a good introduction to pygame.

André

On 11/29/06, Anders Persson <telia.com">anders.u.perssontelia.com> wrote:
Hi!

I have looked around for som language to use to learn my 9 year son
programming.

There is a KPL - Kids Programming Language but my son diden't grasp the
OO, GUI and everyting around this, maby becurse English is not his spoken
language, and for a beginner i think the inviroment was to complex.

So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn kids this way, and
could
giv som ide how-to.
I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,

best regards
Anders


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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-29 20:33:39


On 11/29/06, Senthil_ORdell.com">Senthil_ORdell.com < Senthil_ORdell.com">Senthil_ORdell.com&gt; wrote:
Hi,
 &nbsp;  Playing with Guido Van Robot http://gvr.sf.net is another good option to teach programming to young ones. Rurple is just another graphic representation of the gvr.


Not quite.&nbsp; GvR uses a Python-like notation and has no OOP support.&nbsp; Rur-ple uses standard Python and has OOP support.
André

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HI-

I think Python is a great choice.

You may want to have a look, as a first step, at rur-ple.&nbsp; Then, as a next step (although it might be a bit steep), you may want to have a look at livewires. &nbsp; This will provide a good introduction to pygame.

André

On 11/29/06, Anders Persson < anders.u.perssontelia.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">anders.u.perssontelia.com> wrote:
Hi!

I have looked around for som language to use to learn my 9 year son
programming.

There is a KPL - Kids Programming Language but my son diden't grasp the
OO, GUI and everyting around this, maby becurse English is not his spoken
language, and for a beginner i think the inviroment was to complex.

So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn kids this way, and
could
giv som ide how-to.
I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,

best regards
Anders


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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-30 00:47:55
> So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn
kids this way, and 
> could
> giv som ide how-to.
> I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,

http://davidbau.com/archives/2005/07/29/haaarg_world.ht
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Alan

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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-30 06:25:17
Andre Roberge wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Senthil_ORdell.com <Senthil_ORdell.com> wrote:
> 	Hi,
> 	    Playing with Guido Van Robot http://gvr.sf.net is another
good
> option to teach programming to young ones. Rurple is
just another
> graphic representation of the gvr.  
> 
> 
> 
> Not quite.  GvR uses a Python-like notation and has no
OOP support. 
> Rur-ple uses standard Python and has OOP support. 
> André

Thanks for clarifying Andre.
Infact, myself and my young friends started with GVR, after
completing it. I analyzed rur-ple.
On the surface, I found it similar (if not the same). We
were more interested with programming than python.
For the purpose of introduction to programming to young ppl,
does GVR or Rurple really make a difference? 
We are trying to play with squeak now, but little progress
so far.

You might like to know about my friend Avi, we tried gvr and
trying squeak and trying to understand freeciv:
http://puggy.symonds.net/~senthil/Phoenix/Avi_Quiz.ppt


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Use Python to learn kids (9 yr) to program
user name
2006-11-30 21:09:47
Anders Persson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have looked around for som language to use to learn
my 9 year son 
> programming.
>
> There is a KPL - Kids Programming Language but my son
diden't grasp the
> OO, GUI and everyting around this, maby becurse English
is not his spoken
> language, and for a beginner i think the inviroment was
to complex.
>
> So my plan is to use Python, has anyone try to learn
kids this way, and 
> could
> giv som ide how-to.
> I witch way to introduce every part of the language,,,
>
> best regards
> Anders
>
>
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Another interesting way to learn to program the OO way is a
from 
Carnegie Mellon University at http://alice.org/.  It is a
graphical 
approach.  I just stumbled upon this software last week.

Tom
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