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Issue 377: Netsel NITs
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2006-08-09 02:45:22
Issue 377: Netsel NITs
Submitter name: Bernard Aboba
Submitter email address: abobainternaut.com
Date Submitted: August 8, 2006
Reference:
Document: NETSEL-04
Comment type: Editorial
Priority: 1
Section: Various
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

Section 1

"which particular roaming relationship variation is
used"

suggest changing this to:
"the roaming relationship path in use."

Section 1.1

I think you need to add some definitions from RFC 4284:

   NAI             Network Access Identifier [RFC4282].

   Decorated NAI   An NAI specifying a source route.  See
[RFC4282]
                   Section 2.7 for more information.

   Realm       Realm portion of an NAI [RFC4282].

And some from RFC 4282:

   Network Access Identifier

      The Network Access Identifier (NAI) is the user
identity submitted
      by the client during network access authentication. 
In roaming,
      the purpose of the NAI is to identify the user as well
as to
      assist in the routing of the authentication request. 
Please note
      that the NAI may not necessarily be the same as the
user's e-mail
      address or the user identity submitted in an
application layer
      authentication.

   Network Access Server

      The Network Access Server (NAS) is the device that
clients connect
      to in order to get access to the network.  In PPTP
terminology,
      this is referred to as the PPTP Access Concentrator
(PAC), and in
      L2TP terminology, it is referred to as the L2TP Access
      Concentrator (LAC).  In IEEE 802.11, it is referred to
as an
      Access Point.

   Roaming Capability

      Roaming capability can be loosely defined as the
ability to use
      any one of multiple Internet Service Providers (ISPs),
while
      maintaining a formal, customer-vendor relationship
with only one.
      Examples of cases where roaming capability might be
required
      include ISP "confederations" and
ISP-provided corporate network
      access support.

And some more from 802.11 terminology:

   Station (STA): A device that contains an IEEE 802.11
conformant
   medium access control (MAC) and physical layer (PHY)
interface to the
   wireless medium (WM).

   Access Point (AP): An entity that has station
functionality and
   provides access to distribution services via the wireless
medium (WM)
   for associated stations.

   Basic Service Set (BSS): A set of stations controlled by
a single
   coordination function.

   Extended Service Set (ESS): A set of one or more
interconnected basic
   service sets (BSSs) with the same Service Set Identifier
(SSID) and
   integrated local area networks (LANs), which appears as a
single BSS
   to the logical link control layer at any station
associated with one
   of those BSSs.

      This refers to a mechanisms that a node uses to
discover available
      realms prior the realm selection takes place.

I can't parse the last half of the sentence.  Can we
shorten this to:

"      This refers to a mechanisms that a node uses to
discover the realms
       that are reachable from a given network."

      The selection will be dependent upon for
      example the support for an access technology by the
device and
      availability of such access technology based networks.

Recommend we change this to:

"     The selection will be dependent upon the access
technologies supported
      by the device and the availability of networks
supporting those
      technologies."

bearer type -> bearer types

Section 2.1

as proposed in IEEE 802.11k

Please include a reference:

[IEEE802.11k]
          Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers,
"Draft
          Ammendment to Standard for Telecommunications and
Information
          Exchange Between Systems - LAN/MAN Specific
Requirements -
          Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC)
and Physical
          Layer (PHY) Specifications: Radio Resource
Management", IEEE
          802.11k, D4.1, July 2006.

          UAM

Please expand this (Universal Access Method).

Section 2.3

   Within the past IETF ROAMOPS WG, a number of additional
approaches

Suggest changing to:

   Within the IETF ROAMOPS WG, additional approaches

Section 3.1

"The effects to handoff" -> "The
effects on handoff"

Section 3.2

Recommend changing the title to "IEEE 802"

Section 3.3

"lets the user to choose the desired PLMN" ->
"lets the user choose the 
desired PLMN"

"or a Visited PLMN (VPLMN) is a roaming case"
-> "or a Visited PLMN (VPLMN) 
in the roaming case"

"both SSID- and EAP-based" -> "both
SSID and EAP-based"

Section 4.1

"phone book approach hard." -> "phone
book approach difficult."

Section 5

"seems hard given" -> "seems difficult
given"

References

   [11]  Housley, R. and T. Moore, "Certificate
Extensions and
         Attributes Supporting Authentication in
Point-to-Point Protocol
         (PPP) and Wireless Local Area Networks
(WLAN)", RFC 3770,
         May 2004.

this has been obsoleted by RFC 4334:

         Housley, R. and T. Moore, "Certificate
Extensions and
         Attributes Supporting Authentication in
Point-to-Point Protocol
         (PPP) and Wireless Local Area Networks
(WLAN)", RFC 4334,
         February 2006.


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Issue 377: Netsel NITs
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2006-09-07 21:10:35
Agree to make all the changes listed in the issue.

BR,

Farooq

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_abobahotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:45 PM
> To: eapfrascone.com
> Subject: [eap] Issue 377: Netsel NITs
> 
> Issue 377: Netsel NITs
> Submitter name: Bernard Aboba
> Submitter email address: abobainternaut.com
> Date Submitted: August 8, 2006
> Reference:
> Document: NETSEL-04
> Comment type: Editorial
> Priority: 1
> Section: Various
> Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> 
> Section 1
> 
> "which particular roaming relationship variation
is used"
> 
> suggest changing this to:
> "the roaming relationship path in use."
> 
> Section 1.1
> 
> I think you need to add some definitions from RFC 4284:
> 
>    NAI             Network Access Identifier [RFC4282].
> 
>    Decorated NAI   An NAI specifying a source route. 
See [RFC4282]
>                    Section 2.7 for more information.
> 
>    Realm       Realm portion of an NAI [RFC4282].
> 
> And some from RFC 4282:
> 
>    Network Access Identifier
> 
>       The Network Access Identifier (NAI) is the user
identity
submitted
>       by the client during network access
authentication.  In roaming,
>       the purpose of the NAI is to identify the user as
well as to
>       assist in the routing of the authentication
request.  Please
note
>       that the NAI may not necessarily be the same as
the user's
e-mail
>       address or the user identity submitted in an
application layer
>       authentication.
> 
>    Network Access Server
> 
>       The Network Access Server (NAS) is the device
that clients
connect
>       to in order to get access to the network.  In
PPTP terminology,
>       this is referred to as the PPTP Access
Concentrator (PAC), and
in
>       L2TP terminology, it is referred to as the L2TP
Access
>       Concentrator (LAC).  In IEEE 802.11, it is
referred to as an
>       Access Point.
> 
>    Roaming Capability
> 
>       Roaming capability can be loosely defined as the
ability to use
>       any one of multiple Internet Service Providers
(ISPs), while
>       maintaining a formal, customer-vendor
relationship with only
one.
>       Examples of cases where roaming capability might
be required
>       include ISP "confederations" and
ISP-provided corporate network
>       access support.
> 
> And some more from 802.11 terminology:
> 
>    Station (STA): A device that contains an IEEE 802.11
conformant
>    medium access control (MAC) and physical layer (PHY)
interface to
the
>    wireless medium (WM).
> 
>    Access Point (AP): An entity that has station
functionality and
>    provides access to distribution services via the
wireless medium
(WM)
>    for associated stations.
> 
>    Basic Service Set (BSS): A set of stations
controlled by a single
>    coordination function.
> 
>    Extended Service Set (ESS): A set of one or more
interconnected
basic
>    service sets (BSSs) with the same Service Set
Identifier (SSID) and
>    integrated local area networks (LANs), which appears
as a single
BSS
>    to the logical link control layer at any station
associated with
one
>    of those BSSs.
> 
>       This refers to a mechanisms that a node uses to
discover
available
>       realms prior the realm selection takes place.
> 
> I can't parse the last half of the sentence.  Can we
shorten this to:
> 
> "      This refers to a mechanisms that a node
uses to discover the
realms
>        that are reachable from a given network."
> 
>       The selection will be dependent upon for
>       example the support for an access technology by
the device and
>       availability of such access technology based
networks.
> 
> Recommend we change this to:
> 
> "     The selection will be dependent upon the
access technologies
supported
>       by the device and the availability of networks
supporting those
>       technologies."
> 
> bearer type -> bearer types
> 
> Section 2.1
> 
> as proposed in IEEE 802.11k
> 
> Please include a reference:
> 
> [IEEE802.11k]
>           Institute of Electrical and Electronics
Engineers, "Draft
>           Ammendment to Standard for Telecommunications
and
Information
>           Exchange Between Systems - LAN/MAN Specific
Requirements -
>           Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control
(MAC) and
Physical
>           Layer (PHY) Specifications: Radio Resource
Management", IEEE
>           802.11k, D4.1, July 2006.
> 
>           UAM
> 
> Please expand this (Universal Access Method).
> 
> Section 2.3
> 
>    Within the past IETF ROAMOPS WG, a number of
additional approaches
> 
> Suggest changing to:
> 
>    Within the IETF ROAMOPS WG, additional approaches
> 
> Section 3.1
> 
> "The effects to handoff" -> "The
effects on handoff"
> 
> Section 3.2
> 
> Recommend changing the title to "IEEE 802"
> 
> Section 3.3
> 
> "lets the user to choose the desired PLMN"
-> "lets the user choose
the
> desired PLMN"
> 
> "or a Visited PLMN (VPLMN) is a roaming
case" -> "or a Visited PLMN
(VPLMN)
> in the roaming case"
> 
> "both SSID- and EAP-based" ->
"both SSID and EAP-based"
> 
> Section 4.1
> 
> "phone book approach hard." ->
"phone book approach difficult."
> 
> Section 5
> 
> "seems hard given" -> "seems
difficult given"
> 
> References
> 
>    [11]  Housley, R. and T. Moore, "Certificate
Extensions and
>          Attributes Supporting Authentication in
Point-to-Point
Protocol
>          (PPP) and Wireless Local Area Networks
(WLAN)", RFC 3770,
>          May 2004.
> 
> this has been obsoleted by RFC 4334:
> 
>          Housley, R. and T. Moore, "Certificate
Extensions and
>          Attributes Supporting Authentication in
Point-to-Point
Protocol
>          (PPP) and Wireless Local Area Networks
(WLAN)", RFC 4334,
>          February 2006.
> 
> 
>
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