sethg GoodmanAssociates.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:28 AM -0600,
> netsecuritysound-by-design.com wrote:
>
> > Frankly I am in agreement with Billy Y. I myself
have gotten black
> > holed because someone on the same netblock sent a
bunch of spam.
> > Getting off the list was impossible because I did
not control the
> > netblock. It took over three months, and I have a
fixed IP!
>
> There are plenty situations like this around and its
very unfortunate
> when innocent third parties are affected. This is why
DNSBL's are both
> loved and hated. It sounds like you were in what Paul
Vixie called a
> "bad neighborhood" on the internet. Other
people in your netblock were
> likely abusing outside networks and the provider was
not cooperative in
> fixing the problem. He wound up with a netblock
blackholed which
> affected all his customers.
>
> It's similar to a multi-unit in a big city
neighborhood where there's a
> lot of drug dealing. Ideally, the police would catch
the perpetrators
> and the problem would be solved. But the landlord is
lax and continues
> to rent to people who conduct illegal activities and
create a public
> nuisance. Eventually, it may get to the point where
the city condemns
> the building and everyone in it loses their apartment.
Some of the
> people were clearly innocent, but allowing the
situation to continue was
> not a good option either. Whatever the police did,
many people would be
> unhappy. Prosecuting the current perpetrators, and
watching them
> quickly replaced with similar tenants would not satisfy
the neighbors
> desire for a safe neighborhood. Seizing the building
and throwing
> everybody out is clearly unfair to tenants who did
nothing wrong. It's
> just a bad situation.
Actually it is even worse than you describe. One case that I
mentioned on
the list a while ago involved a stolen/forged credit card
being used to
buy hosting services.
The fraud was stopped in 48 hours or less, but the damage
from RBLs lasted
for weeks. This is why I think locking people out based on
multiple RBLs
is not a good choice.
Best,
Allen
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