The purpose of this mailing list

jef e wrote:
> Máirín Duffy wrote:
> 
>> How does this sound?:
>>
>> "Discussions about using Red Hat Network to
apply updates to Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux, including discussion about
particular Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux updates."
>>
>> Is this too broad? How do / have you found this
list most useful? Let's
>> focus the purpose towards that.
> 
> I think it's a good start, but despite all good
intentions to make the
> description as accurate as possible, I think that you
might need to
> actually include what the list *isn't* for.
> 
> Perhaps also include pointers to the other lists,  so
that those folks
> that do need help can get better results from the
proper community of
> users.

Okay, so I've updated some of the metadata about this list.
The changes 
I made are listed below.

If there are any corrections for these or any further
suggestions on how 
to manage this list and better the signal-to-noise ratio
please let me know.

Thanks,
~m

Changes

- The listinfo page [1] has been updated to include a more
descriptive 
about message, including a statement about what this list is
*not* for 
(RHEL-specific topics that don't involve RHN) and pointers
to related 
mailing lists.

- The short description for this list displayed on the full
RH mailing 
list page [2] has been changed to: "Discussions about
Red Hat Network 
(rhn.redhat.com)'

- The following has been added to the welcome message for
new subscribers:

"Welcome to the Red Hat Network Users list!

This list is for discussions about using Red Hat Network 
(http://rhn.redhat.com/) to
manage and apply updates to Red Hat 
Enterprise Linux, including discussion about particular Red
Hat 
Enterprise Linux updates.

This list is not intended for discussion  about topics
specific to Red 
Hat Enterprise Linux that do not involve Red Hat Network.
For discussion 
of such topics, you may want to try:

[1] RHEL 4 Discussion - h
ttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/nahant-list
[2] RHEL 3 Discussion - h
ttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/taroon-list
[3] Red Hat System Administrators' list:
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-sysad
min-list"

References

[1] htt
ps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhn-users
[2] https://www.
redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> jef e wrote:
> > Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > 
> > > How does this sound?:
> > >
> > > "Discussions about using Red Hat
Network to apply updates to Red Hat
> > > Enterprise Linux, including discussion about
particular Red Hat
> > > Enterprise Linux updates."
> > >
> > > Is this too broad? How do / have you found
this list most useful? Let's
> > > focus the purpose towards that.
> > 
> > I think it's a good start, but despite all good
intentions to make the
> > description as accurate as possible, I think that
you might need to
> > actually include what the list *isn't* for.
> > 
> > Perhaps also include pointers to the other lists, 
so that those folks
> > that do need help can get better results from the
proper community of
> > users.
> 
> Okay, so I've updated some of the metadata about this
list. The changes I made
> are listed below.
> 
> If there are any corrections for these or any further
suggestions on how to
> manage this list and better the signal-to-noise ratio
please let me know.

Thanks Máirín, these changes will he people decide better
whether they 
should subcribe, but it won't fix currently subscribed
people sending 
(or answering) off-topic mails.

I'd propose to (for one or 2 weeks) answer off-topic mails
like I did with 
the last 2 off-topic mails, just so there is a definitive
statement from 
Red Hat.

The rationale should be that off-topic posters are better
off on another 
mailinglist for their own sake. And my opinion (and I know
other people 
disagree about this) is that such statements ought to be
public in order 
to be generally useful.

Of course, as soon as the signal-to-noise ratio improves,
very few 
correction mails need to be send.

Just my opinion.

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Dag Wieers wrote:
> Thanks Máirín, these changes will he people decide
better whether they 
> should subcribe, but it won't fix currently subscribed
people sending 
> (or answering) off-topic mails.
> 
> I'd propose to (for one or 2 weeks) answer off-topic
mails like I did with 
> the last 2 off-topic mails, just so there is a
definitive statement from 
> Red Hat.
> 
> The rationale should be that off-topic posters are
better off on another 
> mailinglist for their own sake. And my opinion (and I
know other people 
> disagree about this) is that such statements ought to
be public in order 
> to be generally useful.

This sounds reasonable to me.

~m

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