RE: WebDAV with Windows Vista

Basically MS removed the "webfolders" client in
Vista and now only has
the mini-redirector (XP had BOTH and different version
depending on
whether Office was installed).

http://www.vista64.net/forums/vista-gene
ral/21946-webdav-web-folder-clie
nt-msdaipp-dll-supported-vista.html

There are 2 shortcomings of the redirector spoken about here
(note that
this is just to get the client to connect, once its
connected I cannot
speak to other problems):

1)  The client requires the ability to OPTION / (not always
true)
2)  The client will try to walk the chain from / to the
mount point
(there are many reasons the client couldn't do this
including security).


However if I try to mount /Kevin on a server (and have
access to do so),
it will connect.

Also interesting that some of my follow-up comments were
deleted from
the forum.  I guess someone didn't like the extended
information I gave
 

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org
[mailto:w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org]
On Behalf Of Konstantin Breu
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:46 AM
To: w3c-dist-authw3.org
Subject: WebDAV with Windows Vista


Hello,

Mac/Linux users: I am sorry for asking **windows**
specific questions
here.
Just stop reading... 

I have a WebDAV server (J2EE based), there is no problem to
use it with
Windows Explorer (via Network Resource), Internet Explorer
(via open
page as
Web folder), Office 2003/2007 when using Windows XP SP2.

But so far I did not have any success when trying the same
with Windows
Vista. Windows Explorer cannot create the connection (but it
is doing
requests to the server), Internet Explorer only offers to
open it as web
page (GET). Office 2007 also only does GET, when I try to
access the
folders
an files in the file open dialog. If I enter there a folder
address
(http://.....), it then does a
GET against that address, and opens that
as
"document" in Word etc...

My question to the list: is there somebody, who was able to
use Windows
Explorer/Internet Explorer/Office 2007 (or an older version)
with
Windows
Vista as WebDAV client? Are there special settings for the
client side,
or
additional installations, which I have to do? Or are there
some
additional
requirements for the server, which Vista needs? (for example
support of
some
Properties, Http headers, Authentication method,...) You
could also send
me
communication logs, if your server works with Vista, and you
do not know
why.... ;)

If there is somebody, who has the same problem: you can also
drop me a
line,
then I could give you some hints when I have found out
more... Of course
I
also searched in the internet for information... I found
descriptions of
such problems, some people were describing workarounds, but
so far these
workarounds did not help me...

I will also get into contact with Microsoft support, but
this will take
some
longer time, as I or my chief will have to pay for it. I
will also do
tests
with other clients (for example WebDrive), and other servers
(for
example
Slide, Tomcat), to see how they are working when the client
OS is
Vista...

Cheers,
Konstantin

P.S. I was testing so far with Vista Business, but I have
access to all
versions.

Kevin Wiggen schrieb:
> ...
> Also interesting that some of my follow-up comments
were deleted from
> the forum.  I guess someone didn't like the extended
information I gave
> 

> ...


Maybe you want to repeat them over here 

Best regards, Julian

> 1)  The client requires the ability to OPTION / (not
always true)
> 2)  The client will try to walk the chain from / to the
mount point
>  (there are many reasons the client couldn't do this
including security).

I had seen that, too in my tests. And so enabled support for
OPTION/PROPFIND
for / and the following directories up to my real WebDAV
resources. So with
Windows XP I can access www.myserver.com/ as Webfolder or
Webdav network
resource. But this alone did not help... all the http
requests of the client
were answered correctly (according to RFC), but the client
still did not
want to connect...

Btw, I saw the problem with OPTION / also in one situation
when testing with
Office 2007 at Windows XP (when trying to update a file).
Then Word displays
an error message...

Cheers,
Konstantin


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org
[mailto:w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org] Im
Auftrag von Kevin Wiggen
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2007 18:37
An: Konstantin Breu; w3c-dist-authw3.org
Betreff: RE: WebDAV with Windows Vista


Basically MS removed the "webfolders" client in
Vista and now only has
the mini-redirector (XP had BOTH and different version
depending on
whether Office was installed).

http://www.vista64.net/forums/vista-gene
ral/21946-webdav-web-folder-clie
nt-msdaipp-dll-supported-vista.html

There are 2 shortcomings of the redirector spoken about here
(note that
this is just to get the client to connect, once its
connected I cannot
speak to other problems):

1)  The client requires the ability to OPTION / (not always
true)
2)  The client will try to walk the chain from / to the
mount point
(there are many reasons the client couldn't do this
including security).


However if I try to mount /Kevin on a server (and have
access to do so),
it will connect.

Also interesting that some of my follow-up comments were
deleted from
the forum.  I guess someone didn't like the extended
information I gave
 

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org
[mailto:w3c-dist-auth-requestw3.org]
On Behalf Of Konstantin Breu
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:46 AM
To: w3c-dist-authw3.org
Subject: WebDAV with Windows Vista


Hello,

Mac/Linux users: I am sorry for asking **windows**
specific questions
here.
Just stop reading... 

I have a WebDAV server (J2EE based), there is no problem to
use it with
Windows Explorer (via Network Resource), Internet Explorer
(via open
page as
Web folder), Office 2003/2007 when using Windows XP SP2.

But so far I did not have any success when trying the same
with Windows
Vista. Windows Explorer cannot create the connection (but it
is doing
requests to the server), Internet Explorer only offers to
open it as web
page (GET). Office 2007 also only does GET, when I try to
access the
folders
an files in the file open dialog. If I enter there a folder
address
(http://.....), it then does a
GET against that address, and opens that
as
"document" in Word etc...

My question to the list: is there somebody, who was able to
use Windows
Explorer/Internet Explorer/Office 2007 (or an older version)
with
Windows
Vista as WebDAV client? Are there special settings for the
client side,
or
additional installations, which I have to do? Or are there
some
additional
requirements for the server, which Vista needs? (for example
support of
some
Properties, Http headers, Authentication method,...) You
could also send
me
communication logs, if your server works with Vista, and you
do not know
why.... ;)

If there is somebody, who has the same problem: you can also
drop me a
line,
then I could give you some hints when I have found out
more... Of course
I
also searched in the internet for information... I found
descriptions of
such problems, some people were describing workarounds, but
so far these
workarounds did not help me...

I will also get into contact with Microsoft support, but
this will take
some
longer time, as I or my chief will have to pay for it. I
will also do
tests
with other clients (for example WebDrive), and other servers
(for
example
Slide, Tomcat), to see how they are working when the client
OS is
Vista...

Cheers,
Konstantin

P.S. I was testing so far with Vista Business, but I have
access to all
versions.