AJAX

Hi all,

I know there are various topics on this subject, but my
concrete
question is: How mature is the ajax support in Django at the
moment ?
If i download django now , what kind of ajax support can it
offer, in
terms of helpers , etc , and how stable is this? (as
compared to ROR
for example). We are currently evaluating the two frameworks
to be used
in a relatively high-traffic and not so simple (as opposed
to some apps
from 37signals) ,  and since all of the performance /
extensibility /
rich UIs considerations are very important, still haven't
arrived at a
 conclusion. Thanks

Regards,
Angel


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On 10/30/06, angel <attodorovgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I know there are various topics on this subject, but my
concrete
> question is: How mature is the ajax support in Django
at the moment ?
> If i download django now , what kind of ajax support
can it offer, in
> terms of helpers , etc , and how stable is this? (as
compared to ROR
> for example). We are currently evaluating the two
frameworks to be used
> in a relatively high-traffic and not so simple (as
opposed to some apps
> from 37signals) ,  and since all of the performance /
extensibility /
> rich UIs considerations are very important, still
haven't arrived at a
>  conclusion. Thanks
>

Short answer: Pick the JS toolkit of your choice (Dojo,
MochiKit,
Prototype, YUI among others) thanks to Django's built in
serialization
(XML or JSON).

For a complete answer see:
http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/07/02/django-and-ajax

And for some examples see the wiki and these articles:
http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/
07/31/django-tips-simple-ajax-example-part-1
http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/
08/05/django-tips-simple-ajax-example-part-2


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On 10/30/06, angel <attodorovgmail.com> wrote:
> I know there are various topics on this subject, but my
concrete
> question is: How mature is the ajax support in Django
at the moment ?
> If i download django now , what kind of ajax support
can it offer, in
> terms of helpers , etc , and how stable is this?

Django makes it easy to serialize objects for responses to
XMLHttpRequest, because that's an important server-side
thing. Even if
you don't use the serializers, Django makes it ridiculously
easy to
construct responses in different formats depending on
whether you're
responding to an "AJAX request" or a
"normal" request.


Personal opinion follows:

Django has never included and, hopefully, will never include
"AJAX
helpers" of any sort.

It is my firm belief that there are lots and lots of really
good
standalone JavaScript toolkits out there which will serve
you far
better in the long run than having your server-side
framework try to
do magic tricks and write your code for you.

It is also my firm belief that if you choose a framework
based on what
magic JavaScript tricks it can do, you should expect to get
your clock
cleaned by competitors who can roll their own magic on the
fly --
they'll be able to do it faster and better every time.


-- 
"May the forces of evil become confused on the way to
your house."
  -- George Carlin

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On 10/30/06, angel <attodorovgmail.com> wrote:
> I know there are various topics on this subject, but my
concrete
> question is: How mature is the ajax support in Django
at the moment ?
> If i download django now , what kind of ajax support
can it offer, in
> terms of helpers , etc , and how stable is this?

Django makes it easy to serialize objects for responses to
XMLHttpRequest, because that's an important server-side
thing. Even if
you don't use the serializers, Django makes it ridiculously
easy to
construct responses in different formats depending on
whether you're
responding to an "AJAX request" or a
"normal" request.


Personal opinion follows:

Django has never included and, hopefully, will never include
"AJAX
helpers" of any sort.

It is my firm belief that there are lots and lots of really
good
standalone JavaScript toolkits out there which will serve
you far
better in the long run than having your server-side
framework try to
do magic tricks and write your code for you.

It is also my firm belief that if you choose a framework
based on what
magic JavaScript tricks it can do, you should expect to get
your clock
cleaned by competitors who can roll their own magic on the
fly --
they'll be able to do it faster and better every time.


-- 
"May the forces of evil become confused on the way to
your house."
  -- George Carlin

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