How do I connect to development server with my browser?

Greetings:

I am an absolute beginner at Python / Django / Web
development. (Old
school COBOL, VB desktop apps. developer trying to update my
skills.)
My son gave me some space to play in on an Apache server he
rents. I
set up Django,  created my first project, and ran it in the
development server. Then the Definitive Guide to Django says
to bring
up 127.0.0.1:8000 in my browser and I should see an "It
worked"
message. I can't connect to this and, I suspect, this it's
because
this is a local host address and I'm not local. Is there a
way to
connect with the development server remotely?

TIA
Keith
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Keith wrote:
> Is there a way to
> connect with the development server remotely
Absolutely!
By default the development server --only-- runs on
localhost. If you
want to make it accessible via another interface (like the
internet) run
it like this:

python manage.py runserver xxx.xxx.xx.x:8000

where the xxx.xxx.xx.x is the external ip address.

Good luck!

Jeff Anderson

http://www
.djangoproject.com/documentation/django-admin/#runserver-opt
ional-port-number-or-ipaddr-port

"Note that the default IP address, 127.0.0.1, is not
accessible from
other machines on your network. To make your development
server
viewable to other machines on the network, use its own IP
address
(e.g. 192.168.2.1) or 0.0.0.0."

Michael Trier
blog.michaeltrier.com

On Jan 2, 2008 12:12 AM, Keith <kagardgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am an absolute beginner at Python / Django / Web
development. (Old
> school COBOL, VB desktop apps. developer trying to
update my skills.)
> My son gave me some space to play in on an Apache
server he rents. I
> set up Django,  created my first project, and ran it in
the
> development server. Then the Definitive Guide to Django
says to bring
> up 127.0.0.1:8000 in my browser and I should see an
"It worked"
> message. I can't connect to this and, I suspect, this
it's because
> this is a local host address and I'm not local. Is
there a way to
> connect with the development server remotely?
>
> TIA
> Keith
> >
>

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> My son gave me some space to play in on an Apache
server he rents.

Is this a dedicated server or a shared hosting account?

Dedicated? Carry on.

Shared? Watch out! Many shared hosting providers frown on
(or outright
forbid) "long running processes." Without thinking
about what I was
doing, I started working through the Django tutorial on a
1and1.com
account. The third time I tried to run the development
server (It just
wouldn't seem to work) I suddenly found myself locked out of
my
account (and all of my domains blocked for web and mail) for
24 hours.

If you need your own play space for cheap, checkout http://www.webfaction.com
/.
$10/month with user-configurable Apache. Alternatively, get
an old PC,
slap on Ubuntu Linux (or the distro of your choice), and run
a local
server. This has the benefit of letting you pickup some LAMP
(Linux,
Apache, MySQL, Python) skills while learning Django.
Warning: There
can be several steepish learning curves involved here,
although most
distros come with a default LAMP setup installed for you. If
you are
planning on selling your skills, this might be the right
route to take.
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Keith:

If you want to take your first steps learning Django
without
installing it, I work on a tutorial in my spare time called
Instant
Django:

http://www.instantdjango
.com

It includes a download that contains a portable Django
environment
that runs under Windows, no installation required, and uses
the Django
development server and sqlite. It will even from from a USB
thumb
drive. There is also a simple tutorial, which takes you
through the
steps in creating a very rudimentary Django project.

Of course, part of learning Django is learning how to
install and
deploy it, but in my opinion installation shouldn't be the
first thing
you need learn.

It needs to be updated, but it should work for your
purposes. As soon
as I can find the time I will finish the second chapter of
the
tutorial, but I am now working between 60 and 80 hours a
week at my
"day job", which has nothing to do with computers
or programming, and
my wife is pregnant and due in two weeks, so it may be a
while before
I get to it.

Anyway, good luck learning Django!
-cjlesh
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Wow! Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate all the help.

I'll check out the tutorial, and hope all goes well with the
new baby.

The server is shared. My son doesn't have any problem with
me working
on it, but I don't want to cause any problems for him. If I
run the
dev server briefly, that won't cause any problems, will it?

I've downloaded the portable django software.

Thanks again, all.

Keith


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> If I run the dev server briefly, that won't cause any
problems, will it?

It all depends on your hosting company. When in doubt, ask.
It's not
that you are port-scanning their accounting machine, but you
are
creating a "long running process" (i.e. it doesn't
just generate a
page and exit) that is listening on port xxxx. Many of them
don't like
that.

My situation was completely avoidable because (Doh!) I have
a Linux
server running in the garage. I just happened to be logged
in to
1and1.com and I wasn't thinking. Bam! Locked out for 24
hours.

I like the suggestion of running this locally on your
desktop/laptop,
at least until you are doing something more serious than the
tutorial.
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