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translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 08:44:27

Hello there,

 

Does anyone have experience in translating docbook documents?

Are there any tools out there to assist? What is the best approach?

 

Many thanks in advance,

           ; Hinrich Aue

Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 09:11:26
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 15:44, Hinrich Aue wrote:
> Does anyone have experience in translating docbook
documents?
> Are there any tools out there to assist? What is the
best approach?

Hello Hinrich,

The best solution at the best price (free) is the POT/PO
(gnu getext) chain. 
It's used extensively on most Open Source projects. Leaders
obviously the 
GNOME and KDE l18n projects and documentation projects. You
can find more 
info on http://www.kde.org
and http://www.gnome.org.

Hope this helps,

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Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 09:19:44
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Hinrich Aue a écrit :
> Hello there,
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone have experience in translating docbook
documents?
> 
> Are there any tools out there to assist? What is the
best approach?


There's also XLIFF:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x
-localis2/

Camille.
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Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 09:34:03
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> Hello there,
>
> 
>
> Does anyone have experience in translating docbook
documents?
>
> Are there any tools out there to assist? What is the
best approach?
>
> 
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
>             Hinrich Aue
>
Hi Hinrich,

We using the profiling mechanism of docbook scripts.
Described here:
htt
p://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Profiling.html


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Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 09:39:49
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 16:34, Stefan Heuer wrote:
> We using the profiling mechanism of docbook scripts.
Described here:
> htt
p://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Profiling.html

Stefan,

Why use profiling for this? Why not convert your XML to
gettext strings, have 
them translated for each language and then dynamically
rebuild translated 
versions of Docbook XML files during build. 

The benefits are great.
1. No need to have all languages in one file.
2. Edit in main language (e.g. EN), see differences in gnu
gettext.
3. Trac exactly what changed and needs translation on a
version by version 
basis.
4. No need to keep all those lang XML files, just
dynamically create them on 
the build.
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AW: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 09:45:56

Hi Hinrich,

 

I am maintaining a project called DocDook sml (http:/docbooksml.sourceforge.net/).

 

sml stands for singlesource multi-language. DocBook sml provides an easy and secure way to maintain multilingual documentations. The core idea of DocBook sml is keeping/assembling all documentation content of identical semantic, but of different language together in/into one document and deriving from such a 'documentation repository' all desired documentation artefacts.

 

DocBook sml is designed for collaborate with CAT Systems (Computer Aided Translation / Translation Memory) like OmegaT (http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/), but this conjunction is not yet realized. Obviously you can use OmegaT standalone.

 

 

Perhaps this might be interesting for you.

 

Best Regards

 

Jörg Möbius

OPS Design GmbH, Hamburg

 

 

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Von: Hinrich Aue [mailto:hinrich.auelci-software.com]
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April 2007 15:44
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Betreff: [docbook-apps] translation of docbook documents

 

Hello there,

 

Does anyone have experience in translating docbook documents?

Are there any tools out there to assist? What is the best approach?

 

Many thanks in advance,

 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;   ; Hinrich Aue

Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 10:22:30
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Sean Wheller schrieb:
> Why use profiling for this? Why not convert your XML to
gettext
> strings, have them translated for each language and
then
> dynamically rebuild translated versions of Docbook XML
files during
> build.
Hi Sean,

I'm using profiling because of it's easy to implement in our
tool
chain. Up to now we have only two languages of our document.
And we
are only two people working on the files.

You are right if you translate a document to more than two
or three
languages profiling can't be used. In such case I have to
search for
another way.

I read a little bit about gnu gettext. I've never heard
about before.
But I would look for an XML based mechanism. The IBM tool
mentioned by
Camille sounds very interesting. Or implementing an own
XSLT, XQUERY tool.


Stefan


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Re: translation of docbook documents
user name
2007-04-04 12:07:28
Sean Wheller wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 15:44, Hinrich Aue wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience in translating docbook
documents?
>> Are there any tools out there to assist? What is
the best approach?
> 
> Hello Hinrich,
> 
> The best solution at the best price (free) is the
POT/PO (gnu getext) chain. 
> It's used extensively on most Open Source projects.
Leaders obviously the 
> GNOME and KDE l18n projects and documentation projects.
You can find more 
> info on http://www.kde.org and http://www.gnome.org.

GNU Gettext is very good utility. There are also other tools
build on
top of open XML based formats, like OKAPI:

http://okapi.sourceforg
e.net/

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