Relax NG, XSD and DTA

I was looking at the source tree a few months ago; I believe
the RNG
version is generated from a set of RNC files that Norm W.
manually
maintains. From comments on the list, I think other schemas
are
generated automatically from either the RNG or RNC files.

On 2/9/07, Miller, Ray (Centech) <Ray.Millerva.gov> wrote:
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> I remain unclear regarding DocBook 5 Relax NG, XSD and
DTD development
> status.
>
>
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> Will the latter two retain concurrent and synchronized
development efforts
> with the Relax and Compact schemas for the foreseeable
future?
>
>
>
> Will I need to address any XSD and DTD deprecation
issues?
>
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>
>
> Ray
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Miller, Ray (Centech) wrote:

> I remain unclear regarding DocBook 5 Relax NG, XSD and
DTD development
> status.
> 
> Will the latter two retain concurrent and synchronized
development
> efforts with the Relax and Compact schemas for the
foreseeable future?
> 
> Will I need to address any XSD and DTD deprecation
issues?

I hope that the following text should answer all your
questions:

http://www.docbook.org/docs/howto/#introduction-schemas

If not, let me know what is unclear, I will try to improve
document.

			Jirka

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Jirka Kosek wrote:
> Miller, Ray (Centech) wrote:
> 
>> I remain unclear regarding DocBook 5 Relax NG, XSD
and DTD development
>> status.
>>
>> Will the latter two retain concurrent and
synchronized development
>> efforts with the Relax and Compact schemas for the
foreseeable future?
>>
>> Will I need to address any XSD and DTD deprecation
issues?
> 
> I hope that the following text should answer all your
questions:
> 
> http://www.docbook.org/docs/howto/#introduction-schemas

I've been using docbook for  a while now.
I recenty wrote a new piece using docbook 5.
It took me about 10 minutes extra to get used to using
xml:id instead of id,
links are different
<ulink url="http://docbook.or
g">DocBook site</ulink> instead of ulink.
info is common instead of book | article | section info.

I don't know if there's a stylesheet to transform from 4 to
5,
but I doubt it would take long to do a manual update?

For me it was a no pain move. YMMV.






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There is a stylesheet to transform db xml from 4 to 5. I
believe it is
in the schema distribution. Also, the docbook stylesheet
distribution
has the capability to transform db 5 xml to db4 with the
help of a
small customization layer that Bob S. posted a while back.

On 2/9/07, Dave Pawson <davepdpawson.co.uk> wrote:
> Jirka Kosek wrote:
> > Miller, Ray (Centech) wrote:
> >
> >> I remain unclear regarding DocBook 5 Relax NG,
XSD and DTD development
> >> status.
> >>
> >> Will the latter two retain concurrent and
synchronized development
> >> efforts with the Relax and Compact schemas for
the foreseeable future?
> >>
> >> Will I need to address any XSD and DTD
deprecation issues?
> >
> > I hope that the following text should answer all
your questions:
> >
> > http://www.docbook.org/docs/howto/#introduction-schemas
>
> I've been using docbook for  a while now.
> I recenty wrote a new piece using docbook 5.
> It took me about 10 minutes extra to get used to using
> xml:id instead of id,
> links are different
> <ulink url="http://docbook.or
g">DocBook site</ulink> instead of ulink.
> info is common instead of book | article | section
info.
>
> I don't know if there's a stylesheet to transform from
4 to 5,
> but I doubt it would take long to do a manual update?
>
> For me it was a no pain move. YMMV.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> regards
>
> --
> Dave Pawson
> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
> http://www.dpawson.co.uk

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Hi Dave,

On Freitag, 9. Februar 2007, Dave Pawson wrote:
> [...]
> I don't know if there's a stylesheet to transform from
4 to 5,
> but I doubt it would take long to do a manual update?

There is a stylesheet to simplify this task. See 
http:/
/www.docbook.org/docs/howto/#convert4to5 and 
https://svn.sourceforge.n
et/svnroot/docbook/trunk/docbook/relaxng/tools/db4-upgrade.x
sl


Tom

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On 2/10/07, Vito Piserchia <listsmetatype.it> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 12:04 -0600, Chris Chiasson
wrote:
> > I was looking at the source tree a few months ago;
I believe the RNG
> > version is generated from a set of RNC files that
Norm W. manually
> > maintains. From comments on the list, I think
other schemas are
> > generated automatically from either the RNG or RNC
files.
> >
> As described in docbook
> http://www.docbook.org
/schemas website, the only normative schema is the
> RNG one. This is due to the fact that,
> while an XML Schema could be transformed into an
equivalent RelaxNG
> schema (excepting W3C XML Schema identity constraints
and other object modeling related things) -for example
> through the Sun RELAX NG converter at
> http://wwws.sun.com/software/xml/developers/relaxngc
onverter
>  -,  a RelaxNG schema couldn't be.

Are we disagreeing here?

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Chris Chiasson wrote:
> On 2/10/07, Vito Piserchia <listsmetatype.it> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 12:04 -0600, Chris Chiasson
wrote:
>> > I was looking at the source tree a few months
ago; I believe the RNG
>> > version is generated from a set of RNC files
that Norm W. manually
>> > maintains. From comments on the list, I think
other schemas are
>> > generated automatically from either the RNG or
RNC files.
>> >
>> As described in docbook
>> http://www.docbook.org
/schemas website, the only normative schema is the
>> RNG one. This is due to the fact that,
>> while an XML Schema could be transformed into an
equivalent RelaxNG
>> schema (excepting W3C XML Schema identity
constraints and other object 
>> modeling related things) -for example
>> through the Sun RELAX NG converter at
>> http://wwws.sun.com/software/xml/developers/relaxngc
onverter
>>  -,  a RelaxNG schema couldn't be.
> 
> Are we disagreeing here?

I think it's just getting it the wrong way round?
rng-> XSD =  OK, mainly
rng-> DTD = bit lossy

XSD->rng -> OK, mainly


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