Page References with Page Numbers

Hi

I am using docbook 5 with xinclude.

I intend to write books using xinclude very often (each
chapter is a
separate xml-File, which makes it easy to generate new books
for new courses
in a short time.)

I have not found a way to generate references from one part
to another. They
should all look like the following in the pdf-output:

"(See Chapter XYZ "NAME OF CHAPTER" on page.
ABC)"

Under latex I had a simple script for that purppose:
newcommand*totalref[1]{(S. Kap. ref{#1} auf Seite
pageref{#1})}
Is there something similar under docbook5?

What is the standard way to do this?
 - Is it a process that can be done with a script after the
"*.fo"-Generation?
 - Is it better to generate a single file out of my
x-included-sources
before generating the references?

Any idea is welcome.

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fips wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am using docbook 5 with xinclude.
> 
> I intend to write books using xinclude very often (each
chapter is a
> separate xml-File, which makes it easy to generate new
books for new courses
> in a short time.)
> 
> I have not found a way to generate references from one
part to another. They
> should all look like the following in the pdf-output:
> 
> "(See Chapter XYZ "NAME OF CHAPTER" on
page. ABC)"
> 
> Under latex I had a simple script for that purppose:
> newcommand*totalref[1]{(S. Kap. ref{#1} auf Seite
pageref{#1})}
> Is there something similar under docbook5?
> 
> What is the standard way to do this?


Not sure 'standard' is the right word, but
olink works.

http
://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Olinking.html

Very clear, very helpful.




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Hi

Thanks. 
I have read the mentioned page already, but I have not found
a tool to
generate the olinkdb.xml-File.
This must be automated, because I have a) too many single
documents and b)
too many changes per week in the structure. It's impossible
to generate this
olinkdb.xml-File by hand. 

Any Ideas?


The second question that goes with that together is still
open:
How to generate Pagenumbers, Titles and Chapternumbers in
the PDF output?
How do I have to edit/expand the XSL/FO or FO/PDF
stylesheets?

I am using
docbook-xsl-ns-1.73.1/fo
and
fop0.94_jdk1.4/fop-0.94/
to produce PDF. (Works great, thanks to Brett.)

thanks in advance

fips


Dave Pawson wrote:
> 
> fips wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am using docbook 5 with xinclude.
>> 
>> I intend to write books using xinclude very often
(each chapter is a
>> separate xml-File, which makes it easy to generate
new books for new
>> courses
>> in a short time.)
>> 
>> I have not found a way to generate references from
one part to another.
>> They
>> should all look like the following in the
pdf-output:
>> 
>> "(See Chapter XYZ "NAME OF CHAPTER"
on page ABC)"
>> 
>> Under latex I had a simple script for that
purppose:
>> newcommand*totalref[1]{(S. Kap. ref{#1} on page
pageref{#1})}
>> Is there something similar under docbook5?
>> 
>> What is the standard way to do this?
> 
> 
> Not sure 'standard' is the right word, but
> olink works.
> 
> http
://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Olinking.html
> 
> Very clear, very helpful.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> -- 
> Dave Pawson
> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
> http://www.dpawson.co.uk

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fips wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks. 
> I have read the mentioned page already, but I have not
found a tool to
> generate the olinkdb.xml-File.

AFAIK that is a manual task. I.e. you need to automate it.
(Let's see if Bob comes in on this one)


> This must be automated, because I have a) too many
single documents and b)
> too many changes per week in the structure. It's
impossible to generate this
> olinkdb.xml-File by hand. 

Then look at the syntax of the olink file and see if you
can generate it using xslt?

> 
> Any Ideas?
> 
> 
> The second question that goes with that together is
still open:
> How to generate Pagenumbers, Titles and Chapternumbers
in the PDF output?
> How do I have to edit/expand the XSL/FO or FO/PDF
stylesheets?


I'm less sure on this, but I *think* that will be done
automatically when the 'book' is joined together to create
the
xsl-fo file, prior to creating the PDF? I.e. the page
numbers
are generated at the formatter (fo to pdf) stage?


regards



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Thanks Dick

Your hint worked with docbook 5. I simply use the following
stylesheet
(which includes docbook.xml) as my stylesheet.


<?xml version='1.0'?>
<xsl:stylesheet xmlnssl=&q
uot;http://www
.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"
                version='1.0'
                xmlns="http:/
/www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/transitional"
               
exclude-result-prefixes="#default">

  <xsl:import href="docbook.xsl"/>

  <xsl:variable
name="toc.section.depth">3</xsl:variable>

  <!-- Add other variable definitions here -->

  <!-- PHI Style Aug 2007 -->
  <xsl:param
name="paper.type">A4</xsl:param>

  <xsl:param
name="insert.xref.page.number">yes</xsl:para
m>
  <xsl:param name="local.l10n.xml"
select="document('')"/>
  <l:i18n xmlns:l="http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0">
    <l:l10n language="de">
      <l:context name="xref">
        <l:template name="page.citation"
text=" (s. S. %p)"/>
      </l:context>
    </l:l10n>
  </l:i18n>

</xsl:stylesheet>

The link anchors look like this:
<part  .....  xml:id="part_konzepte">

And the links I use are as follows:
<xref linkend="part_konzepte"/>


fips





Dick Hamilton wrote:
> 
> As Dave says, olink works and there's a very nice
description
> in Bob Stayton's book.
> 
> If your application is simpler; for example, if you
only need
> links to work after the xinclude process has pulled
together
> a complete document, you can get away with xref,
provided that
> you keep the ids unique across your files.
> 
> The caveat is that if you run the stylesheets on an
individual
> chapter that references outside itself, you'll get ???
in place
> of your link.  But, if you only care about having the
links work
> after everything has been xincluded into your book,
that shouldn't
> be a problem.
> 
> For styling your cross references, Bob's book is once
again the
> place to go.  Check out the following section for
details:
> 
> h
ttp://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomXrefs.html
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Dick Hamilton
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Pawson [mailto:davepdpawson.co.uk] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:21 AM
>> To: fips
>> Cc: docbooklists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [docbook] Page References with Page
Numbers
>> 
>> 
>> fips wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > 
>> > I am using docbook 5 with xinclude.
>> > 
>> > I intend to write books using xinclude very
often (each chapter is a
>> > separate xml-File, which makes it easy to
generate new 
>> books for new courses
>> > in a short time.)
>> > 
>> > I have not found a way to generate references
from one part 
>> to another. They
>> > should all look like the following in the
pdf-output:
>> > 
>> > "(See Chapter XYZ "NAME OF
CHAPTER" on page. ABC)"
>> > 
>> > Under latex I had a simple script for that
purppose:
>> > newcommand*totalref[1]{(S. Kap. ref{#1} auf
Seite pageref{#1})}
>> > Is there something similar under docbook5?
>> > 
>> > What is the standard way to do this?
>> 
>> 
>> Not sure 'standard' is the right word, but
>> olink works.
>> 
> http
://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Olinking.html
> 
> Very clear, very helpful.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> -- 
> Dave Pawson
> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
> http://www.dpawson.co.uk

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