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Proposal for RFE #1759782: Allow <uri> within <address>, <person>, <org>, etc.
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2007-08-29 12:53:17
At last month's DocBook TC meeting, I took an action to make
a
concrete proposal for addressing this issue.

Proposal: Allow uri to occur everwhere that email occurs.

I think that's a consistent and sensible position. Many
systems
represent email addresses as URIs anyway.

Specifically, this means adding uri to the content model of
six
elements:

  address
  author
  editor
  org
  othercredit
  person

I think we should also add the following values to the list
of suggested
type attribute values on URI:

  homepage
  weblog
  webpage

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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Re: Proposal for RFE #1759782: Allow <uri> within <address>, <person>, <org>, etc.
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2007-08-29 18:33:24
Norman Walsh <ndwnwalsh.com>, 2007-08-29 13:53 -0400:

> Proposal: Allow uri to occur everwhere that email
occurs.
> 
> I think that's a consistent and sensible position. Many
systems
> represent email addresses as URIs anyway.
> 
> Specifically, this means adding uri to the content
model of six
> elements:
> 
>   address
>   author
>   editor
>   org
>   othercredit
>   person

Figuring that if the change to add uri to those places were
made,
it might make sense to check and see if there are actually
more
places where both email and uri should be allowed other than
the
ones where email already is now, I took a look through the
current
DocBook 5 schema to see if I could find any. But I didn't
come
across anything other than the above where it would seem
necessary.

So the above list does seem to me to be the list complete
list of
current elements for marking up the name of a person or
organization, along with other associated other information
about
that person or organization (including URIs and e-mail
addresses).

Which is a roundabout way of saying that it looks like a
sound
proposal to me. 

> I think we should also add the following values to the
list of suggested
> type attribute values on URI:
> 
>   homepage
>   weblog
>   webpage

When I first read the above, I thought the proposal was
suggesting
that those should be used (along with other values) as
enumerated
values on the type attribute (which by design in DocBook
normally
doesn't contain enumerated lists). But then I realized it
just
referred to the list that exists in the Processing
Expectations
section of the documentation[1] for URI, not in the schema
itself.

[1] http://w
ww.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/uri.html

Anyway, I'm not sure if it makes much difference, but I
wonder if
"website" might be appropriate as suggested value
in addition to
or instead of "webpage". Because it seems more
normal to ask a
person, "What's the address for your (web)site?"
than it does to
ask "What's the address for your web page?"

  --Mike

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Re: Proposal for RFE #1759782: Allow <uri> within <address>, <person>, <org>, etc.
user name
2007-08-29 19:13:11
On 8/29/07, Michael(tm) Smith < smithsideshowbarker.net">smithsideshowbarker.net&gt; wrote:
Anyway, I'm not sure if it makes much difference, but I wonder if
"website"; might be appropriate as suggested value in addition to
or instead of "webpage". Because it seems more normal to ask a
person, "What's the address for your (web)site?" than it does to
ask "What's the address for your web page?";


Agreed.  I tend to think of a "website" as a collection of web pages.&nbsp; I would rather refer to my organization's website as a website than as a web page.

As a whole, the proposal sounds good to me.

- Colin
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