Required caption

In HTML 4 the caption for a table is optional. In DocBook 5
with the 
HTML table model it seems to be required. Is this true? If
so, why?

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/ Elliotte Harold <elharometalab.unc.edu> was
heard to say:
| In HTML 4 the caption for a table is optional. In DocBook
5 with the
| HTML table model it seems to be required. Is this true? If
so, why?

It's an attempt at compromise between DocBook which has two
table
elements, one with a title and one without, and HTML which
has only
one.

The short answer is, you want an HTML table without a
caption, you
want an informaltable.

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                                          norm

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Norman Walsh wrote:
> / Elliotte Harold <elharometalab.unc.edu> was
heard to say:
> | In HTML 4 the caption for a table is optional. In
DocBook 5 with the
> | HTML table model it seems to be required. Is this
true? If so, why?
> 
> It's an attempt at compromise between DocBook which
has two table
> elements, one with a title and one without, and HTML
which has only
> one.

There are also another differences -- e.g. HTML table can
not have info 
element with additional metadata. If you are using
customized DocBook 
V5.0 (like addition of <object> element that Norm
mentioned before) you 
might also consider to remove HTML (or CALS) table model
from schema to 
have just one table model in the schema. See 
http:/
/xmlguru.cz/2006/03/docbook-table-models

			Jirka


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On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 09:51 -0400, Elliotte Harold wrote:
> In HTML 4 the caption for a table is optional. In
DocBook 5 with the 
> HTML table model it seems to be required. Is this true?
If so, why?

Captions with good content aid accessibility comprehension
Elliotte.


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Now that I'm using informaltable for my captionless tables
I'm getting 
messages like this:

build/week2/week2.xml:3247: element informaltable: validity
error : 
Element informaltable content does not follow the DTD,
expecting (info , 
((textobject* , (mediaobject+ | tgroup+)) | ((col* |
colgroup*) , thead 
, tfoot , (tbody+ | tr+)))), got (tr tr tr tr tr )
</informaltable>


Are thead and tfoot really required? Or is this just a
limitation of the 
DTd as opposed to the RELAX MG schema?

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