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Thread: drupal.se for sale
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| drupal.se for sale |
 
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2008-01-03 08:16:02 |
Dear fellows,
I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the
Drupal domain
in Sweden -- drupal.se -- is for sale for €25,000 EUR, that
is
approximately $36,730 USD!!
See http://groups.drup
al.org/node/7948 and http://hiveminds.co
.uk/drupal.se.
Best regards,
Thomas
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
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2008-01-03 09:27:39 |
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what about drupal.org.se???
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
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2008-01-03 09:46:57 |
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This is blatant cybersquatting. .se domains are subject to UDRP (I believe) and the owner has clearly demonstrated 'bad faith' by attempting to sell the domain for a high price. All that would be needed is for Dries or the Drupal Association to file a UDRP compaint and an arbitrator would almost certainly order the domain transfered as this is clearly 'bad faith' and TM infringements - some of the main reasons for successful UDRP complaints. Under no circumstances should this guy be paid IMHO. Maybe the Drupal Association should be involved in this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDRP
Sean
On Jan 3, 2008 10:27 AM, Victor Kane < victorkane  gmail.com">victorkanegmail.com
> wrote:
what about drupal.org.se?
??
On Jan 3, 2008 12:16 PM, Thomas Barregren < thomas webbredakt oren.se" target="_blank">thomaswebbredaktoren.se>; wrote:
Dear fellows,
I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the Drupal domain
in Sweden -- drupal.se -- is for sale for €25,000 EUR, that is
approximately $36,730 USD!!
See http://groups.drupal.org/node/7948
and http://hiveminds.co.uk/drupal.se.
Best regards,
Thomas
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
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2008-01-03 09:51:53 |
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The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl McDade, now known as Hiveminds.
Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004 or 2005 (Can't remember). You can check the development mailing list archives for details.
--
Khalid M. Baheyeldin
2bits.com, Inc.
http://2bits.com
Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
 
United States |
2008-01-03 10:01:51 |
My opinion of cybersquatters is not fit for print. If I had
my way,
what he's doing would be completely illegal. If there's any
way Dries
can sue his ass for trademark infringement, I think he
should. That guy
has no right to profit from the Drupal name and holding the
domain
hostage like that is totally disrespectful to the community
who's
software he's (still!!) using. What a f***ing schmuck.
Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl
McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004
or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list
archives for details.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:16 AM, Thomas Barregren <thomaswebbredaktoren.se
> <mailto:thomaswebbredaktoren.se>> wrote:
>
> Dear fellows,
>
> I was deeply choked to find out today that the
domain the Drupal domain
> in Sweden -- drupal.se <http://drupal.se> -- is
for sale for €25,000
> EUR, that is
> approximately $36,730 USD!!
>
> See http://groups.drup
al.org/node/7948 and
> http://hiveminds.co
.uk/drupal.se.
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
> 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
> http://2bits.com
> Drupal optimization, development, customization and
consulting.
--
Sean Robertson
Web Developer
NGP Software, Inc.
seanrngpsoftware.com
(202) 686-9330
http://www.ngpsoftware.com
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
Sweden |
2008-01-03 10:09:05 |
Khalid Baheyeldin skrev:
> The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl
McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004
or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list
archives for
> details.
I have a faint memory of Hiveminds selling a closed source
CMS based on
Drupal. But don't take my words as truth. I might confuse
him with
someone else. Perhaps someone knows more?
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
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2008-01-03 10:09:35 |
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above and beyond our opinion of cybersquatters, notice that the domain is not .org.
The Drupal Association, or someone in Sweden acting on their behalf, should be able to get drupal.org.se
In Argentina, proof of existence of membership and authorization of an organization is required to take out a site, like drupal.org.ar
Now, this depends on the Swedish registrar organization, so that's where the solution can be found.
On Jan 3, 2008 2:01 PM, Sean Robertson < seanr ngpsoftwar e.com">seanrngpsoftware.com> wrote:
My opinion of cybersquatters is not fit for print. If I had my way,
what he's doing would be completely illegal. If there's any way Dries
can sue his ass for trademark infringement, I think he should. That guy
has no right to profit from the Drupal name and holding the domain
hostage like that is totally disrespectful to the community who's
software he's (still!!) using. What a f***ing schmuck.
Khali d Baheyeldin wrote:
>; The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004 or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list archives for details.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:16 AM, Thomas Barregren < thomaswebbredaktoren.se">thomaswebbredaktoren.se
> <mailto : thomaswebbredaktoren.se">thomaswebbredaktoren.se>;> wrote:
>;
> Dear fellows,
>
> I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the Drupal domain
>
2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
> http://2bits.com> ; Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Sean Robertson
Web Developer
NGP Software, Inc.
seanrngpsoftware.com">seanrngpsoftware.com
(202) 686-9330
http://www.ngpsoftware.com
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
United States |
2008-01-03 10:36:02 |
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most cases of TM infringement are fought based on the top level domain. the top domain always wins and is usually the cause for cyberaquatting exactly because they can hijack traffic and create brand confusion. if it were not so, why would the owner try to sell it for 25K? they obviously believe the traffic that domain gets just by existing is worth that amount of money. and for a pornographer or other unscrupulous netpreneur, that may be a bargain if they can double their investment in ad monetization or direct sales.
/ liza
Liza Sabater, Publisher www.culturekitchen.com www.dailygotham.com
On 03.Jan.2008, at 11:09, Victor Kane wrote: above and beyond our opinion of cybersquatters, notice that the domain is not .org.
The Drupal Association, or someone in Sweden acting on their behalf, should be able to get drupal.org.se
In Argentina, proof of existence of membership and authorization of an organization is required to take out a site, like drupal.org.ar
Now, this depends on the Swedish registrar organization, so that's where the solution can be found.
On Jan 3, 2008 2:01 PM, Sean Robertson < seanr ngpsoftwar e.com">seanrngpsoftware.com> wrote:
My opinion of cybersquatters is not fit for print. If I had my way,
what he's doing would be completely illegal. If there's any way Dries
can sue his ass for trademark infringement, I think he should. That guy
has no right to profit from the Drupal name and holding the domain
hostage like that is totally disrespectful to the community who's
software he's (still!!) using. What a f***ing schmuck.
Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>; The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004 or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list archives for details.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:16 AM, Thomas Barregren < thomaswebbredaktoren.se">thomaswebbredaktoren.se
> <mailto : thomaswebbredaktoren.se">thomaswebbredaktoren.se>;> wrote:
>;
> Dear fellows,
>
> I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the Drupal domain
> 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
> http://2bits.com> ; Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Sean Robertson
Web Developer
NGP Software, Inc.
seanrngpsoftware.com">seanrngpsoftware.com
(202) 686-9330
http://www.ngpsoftware.com
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| Re: drupal.se for sale |
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2008-01-03 11:12:00 |
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yes, that is correct, and is the case with drupal.com
On Jan 3, 2008 2:36 PM, blogdiva culturekit chen.com">blogdivaculturekitchen.com <
blogdivaculturekitchen.com">blogdivaculturekitchen.com> wrote:
most cases of TM infringement are fought based on the top level domain. the top domain always wins and is usually the cause for cyberaquatting exactly because they can hijack traffic and create brand confusion. if it were not so, why would the owner try to sell it for 25K? they obviously believe the traffic that domain gets just by existing is worth that amount of money. and for a pornographer or other unscrupulous netpreneur, that may be a bargain if they can double their investment in ad monetization or direct sales.
/ liza On ; 03.Jan.2008
, at 11:09, Victor Kane wrote: above and beyond our opinion of cybersquatters, notice that the domain is not .org.
The Drupal Association, or someone in Sweden acting on their behalf, should be able to get
drupal.org.se
In Argentina, proof of existence of membership and authorization of an organization is required to take out a site, like
drupal.org.ar
Now, this depends on the Swedish registrar organization, so that's where the solution can be found.
On Jan 3, 2008 2:01 PM, Sean Robertson < seanr ngpsoftwar e.com" target="_blank">
seanrngpsoftware.com> wrote:
My opinion of cybersquatters is not fit for print. If I had my way,
what he's doing would be completely illegal. If there's any way Dries
can sue his ass for trademark infringement, I think he should. That guy
has no right to profit from the Drupal name and holding the domain
hostage like that is totally disrespectful to the community who's
software he's (still!!) using. What a f***ing schmuck.
Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>; The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004 or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list archives for details.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:16 AM, Thomas Barregren <
thomaswebbredaktoren.se" target="_blank">thomaswebbredaktoren.se
> <mailto : thomaswebbredaktoren.se" target="_blank">thomaswebbredaktoren.se>;> wrote:
>
> Dear fellows,
>
> I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the Drupal domain
> 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
& gt;
http://2bits.com
> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Sean Robertson
Web Developer
NGP Software, Inc.
seanrngpsoftware.com" target="_blank">
seanrngpsoftware.com
(202) 686-9330
http://www.ngpsoftware.com
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2008-01-03 11:17:17 |
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Yes Victor, It doesn't matter if its a .org .com or some country code TLD as in this case. Once there is trademark infringement and 'bad faith' use then its cybersquatting. And no it may not be 'illegal' but ICANN and country code registrars have dispute policies set up for exactly this case when someone tries to hijack a TM name and sell it for huge profits. All Dries or the DA has to do is contact the .se registry (I think that that is
http://iis.se), and find out about their dispute resolution policy. It might cost about 1,500 or 2,000 (not sure) to file a complaint, but the squatter would stand no chance. Once he tried to sell it for thousands, it is clear 'bad faith', not to mention TM infringement. And yes he can be sued for misuse and TM infringement by Dries if Dries so chooses. It really is incredibly naive and frankly quite stupid to register a TM domain and then try to sell it back for profits. Imagine if he registered
pepsi.se or microsoft.se and then tried to sell it for thousands of dollars. He'd get a lawsuit faster than he could say the word 'lawsuit'.
Sean
On Jan 3, 2008 11:36 AM, blogdiva culturekit chen.com">blogdivaculturekitchen.com < blogdivaculturekitchen.com">blogdivaculturekitchen.com
> wrote:
most cases of TM infringement are fought based on the top level domain. the top domain always wins and is usually the cause for cyberaquatting exactly because they can hijack traffic and create brand confusion. if it were not so, why would the owner try to sell it for 25K? they obviously believe the traffic that domain gets just by existing is worth that amount of money. and for a pornographer or other unscrupulous netpreneur, that may be a bargain if they can double their investment in ad monetization or direct sales.
/ liza On ; 03.Jan.2008
, at 11:09, Victor Kane wrote: above and beyond our opinion of cybersquatters, notice that the domain is not .org.
The Drupal Association, or someone in Sweden acting on their behalf, should be able to get
drupal.org.se
In Argentina, proof of existence of membership and authorization of an organization is required to take out a site, like
drupal.org.ar
Now, this depends on the Swedish registrar organization, so that's where the solution can be found.
On Jan 3, 2008 2:01 PM, Sean Robertson < seanr ngpsoftwar e.com" target="_blank">
seanrngpsoftware.com> wrote:
My opinion of cybersquatters is not fit for print. If I had my way,
what he's doing would be completely illegal. If there's any way Dries
can sue his ass for trademark infringement, I think he should. That guy
has no right to profit from the Drupal name and holding the domain
hostage like that is totally disrespectful to the community who's
software he's (still!!) using. What a f***ing schmuck.
Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>; The owner of the domain offering it for sale is Carl McDade, now known
> as Hiveminds.
>
> Carl had some friction with the community back in 2004 or 2005 (Can't
> remember). You can check the development mailing list archives for details.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:16 AM, Thomas Barregren <
thomaswebbredaktoren.se" target="_blank">thomaswebbredaktoren.se
> <mailto : thomaswebbredaktoren.se" target="_blank">thomaswebbredaktoren.se>;> wrote:
>
> Dear fellows,
>
> I was deeply choked to find out today that the domain the Drupal domain
> 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
& gt;
http://2bits.com
> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Sean Robertson
Web Developer
NGP Software, Inc.
seanrngpsoftware.com" target="_blank">
seanrngpsoftware.com
(202) 686-9330
http://www.ngpsoftware.com
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