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Re: module duplication in Drupal contrib
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-19 13:48:50
I believe that ugly, chaotic mess of multiple contributed
modules 
replicating functionality is a wonderful thing. It is one of
the many 
wonderful things that attracted me to Open Source, and
specifically to 
Drupal. It encourages innovation. So what if 90% of the
modules 
developed might be labeled as duplicate, poorly maintained,
junk, or 
what have you. It's that wilderness that encourages the 10%
to thrive.

Related to this is the cry I've heard over the past few
years for 
support for multimedia in Core.

No, I say! Keep Core to its bare bone structure. I want 50
different 
ways to display an image! If the Image module had been in
core, there 
would have been less incentive to create alternatives.
Imagine Drupal 
for a moment if Flexinode had been put in Core.

When we stop the creative flow of contributed modules, we
are 
effectively making contributed Core. "You can't make
that image handler 
that does it slightly differently, because there's already
an image 
handler that does it well enough. So what if your use case
is slightly 
different? Write a patch. Or force your site to work out of
the box."

We discourage module development when we tell people not to
build module 
Y, because it already exists in module X. Yes, we end up
with modules D, 
E, and G that do similar things, but as has been pointed
out, they might 
be slightly different use cases. Also, some developers might
have a 
different vision than others, and we nip that in the bud if
we tell them 
not to bother, since it's already been done, or if we stifle
their 
creativity by telling them to build a patch that ends up not
getting 
accepted because the maintainer doesn't like the feature.

If it is a real problem for users, then restructure the
project pages to 
make it easier to sort. Or create a third branch: Core,
Contributed, and 
Experimental/Universal or something. Whatever you do, don't
cut off the 
wellspring of creativity and innovation that makes Drupal
such an 
amazing beast.

Enough rant. Back to work.

Aaron Winborn


Re: module duplication in Drupal contrib
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-19 13:30:49
Beautifully said.

Aaron Winborn wrote:
> I believe that ugly, chaotic mess of multiple
contributed modules 
> replicating functionality is a wonderful thing. It is
one of the many 
> wonderful things that attracted me to Open Source, and
specifically to 
> Drupal. It encourages innovation. So what if 90% of the
modules 
> developed might be labeled as duplicate, poorly
maintained, junk, or 
> what have you. It's that wilderness that encourages the
10% to thrive.
>
> Related to this is the cry I've heard over the past few
years for 
> support for multimedia in Core.
>
> No, I say! Keep Core to its bare bone structure. I want
50 different 
> ways to display an image! If the Image module had been
in core, there 
> would have been less incentive to create alternatives.
Imagine Drupal 
> for a moment if Flexinode had been put in Core.
>
> When we stop the creative flow of contributed modules,
we are 
> effectively making contributed Core. "You can't
make that image 
> handler that does it slightly differently, because
there's already an 
> image handler that does it well enough. So what if your
use case is 
> slightly different? Write a patch. Or force your site
to work out of 
> the box."
>
> We discourage module development when we tell people
not to build 
> module Y, because it already exists in module X. Yes,
we end up with 
> modules D, E, and G that do similar things, but as has
been pointed 
> out, they might be slightly different use cases. Also,
some developers 
> might have a different vision than others, and we nip
that in the bud 
> if we tell them not to bother, since it's already been
done, or if we 
> stifle their creativity by telling them to build a
patch that ends up 
> not getting accepted because the maintainer doesn't
like the feature.
>
> If it is a real problem for users, then restructure the
project pages 
> to make it easier to sort. Or create a third branch:
Core, 
> Contributed, and Experimental/Universal or something.
Whatever you do, 
> don't cut off the wellspring of creativity and
innovation that makes 
> Drupal such an amazing beast.
>
> Enough rant. Back to work.
>
> Aaron Winborn
>
>


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