replacing Ubuntu with Edubuntu

Hello, edubuntu developers,

This query probably belongs with the regular Edubuntu
listserv but maybe
someone here will kindly explain what is probably obvious to
most.
I currently have a dual boot system with SUSE on the master
harddrive and
Ubuntu on the slave harddrive, a system which was working
well until:
I tried to replace the Ubuntu OS with Edubuntu, using the
Edubuntu 6.06 
installation
disk. In updating other LINUX systems (Redhat, Fedora,
various 
versions), I have
been informed at the beginning ot the installation process
that there 
are other OS's in
place and did I want to replace/update the LINUX OS. In the
case of 
Edubuntu,
I got no such message and in fact, when I kept the
installation going 
until it reached
a repartition stage and then backed out, I discovered that
while the 
SUSE system was
intact, I could not get a normal login into Ubuntu.

After numerous attempts to "install" xwindow
packages with aptitude, I 
now still
have a non-functioning ubuntu system. I can work in the
command line 
mode with
no problems (obviously, since only that way could I use
aptitude) but 
cannot get
the GUI to function properly.

Does anyone have a suggestion for
1. making my Ubuntu system work again.
2. Better: replace my former Ubuntu system with the Edubuntu
6.06 system. I
really want to do this to check out some features I want to
use in an 
international
school network.

Is there some reason the Edubuntu 6.06 install disk does not
give an 
update option?

Looking forward to your wisdom, Ralph M. Deal
retired P.Chem. professor doing some volunteering in the
Thuringia 
International School

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On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 22:02 +0200, R.M Deal wrote:
> Is there some reason the Edubuntu 6.06 install disk
does not give an 
> update option?

It might be because your Ubuntu version is the same version
as the
Edubuntu version? Edubuntu is essentially the same as
Ubuntu, it just
has a different configuration and some additional packages
(and some
removed for disc space purposes). If you want edubuntu, you
could add
the Edubuntu CD in synaptic as another source, and install
edubuntu-desktop edubuntu-artwork edubuntu-artwork-usplash
and
edubuntu-docs, then you will basically have an Edubuntu
system
installed.

-Jonathan


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Thanks for the advice, Jonathan,

>On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 22:02 +0200, R.M Deal wrote:
>  
>
>>Is there some reason the Edubuntu 6.06 install disk
does not give an 
>>update option?
>>    
>>
>
>It might be because your Ubuntu version is the same
version as the
>Edubuntu version? 
>
Or even a later version - quite possibly.

>Edubuntu is essentially the same as Ubuntu, it just
>has a different configuration and some additional
packages (and some
>removed for disc space purposes). If you want edubuntu,
you could add
>the Edubuntu CD in synaptic as another source, and
install
>edubuntu-desktop edubuntu-artwork
edubuntu-artwork-usplash and
>edubuntu-docs, then you will basically have an Edubuntu
system
>installed.
>  
>
I did essentially that today on an Ubuntu computer at the
school by installing edubuntu-desktop 
which brought in nearly everything else, perhaps not the
artwork and the docs - 
I'll have to check.


One interesting problem which someone might be able to fix:
Several of the packages installed were for lilypond, a music
scripting 
utility I've
used for some time.  I'm not sure why they were included
since they take 
quite a
bit of space.   Anyway, during the installation, there was a
problem 
with the
lilypond-data package.  Afterwards I asked to remove all the
lilypond 
packages which
was done except for the lilypond-data package again.  I've
tried several 
times to remove
that package several times since but the problem persists. 
This is a 
15Meg file I'd really
like to clean out.

    Best, Ralph

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Hi Ralph

On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 23:10 +0200, R.M Deal wrote:
> lilypond-data package.  Afterwards I asked to remove
all the lilypond 
> packages which
> was done except for the lilypond-data package again. 
I've tried several 
> times to remove
> that package several times since but the problem
persists.  This is a 
> 15Meg file I'd really
> like to clean out.

Does it give you an error message? Could you please tell us
what that
is?

-Jonathan


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Hi, Jonathan Carter,

I plan to run a script when getting edubuntu to misbehave on
the 
lilypond-data package; then
I'll email it to you.

>Hi Ralph
>
>On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 23:10 +0200, R.M Deal wrote:
>  
>
>>lilypond-data package.  Afterwards I asked to remove
all the lilypond 
>>packages which
>>was done except for the lilypond-data package again.
 I've tried several 
>>times to remove
>>that package several times since but the problem
persists.  This is a 
>>15Meg file I'd really
>>like to clean out.
>>    
>>
>
>Does it give you an error message? Could you please tell
us what that
>is?
>
Today, my systems guy, Ervin Peters, showed me his current
scheme to 
force users to store their
files on the server rather than the local harddisk:  The
home directory 
on the server has separate directories
for each user, each with a protection code of 700.  On
booting up, each 
user will land in his/her directory on the server, say
/home/deal/.  
While they can see the directories for all other users by
going up one 
directory level, they will all be locked
(love the graphics in edubuntu) except for their own and, at
one level 
higher, they will have access to a shared folder where
they can leave documents,etc, for colleagues.   It seems to
work well 
and preserve the privacy of each user. While this scheme
seems close to 
a diskless system, it does not require the server to provide
services 
other than access to the user's own directory.
Now we work on the printer sharing problem, keeping it all
gui and 
intutive, of course.

If anyone can point me to a discussion of the relative
merits of 
skolelinux and edubuntu in a school setting, I'd
appreciate it.

    thanks,   Ralph

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