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Linux as a platform
user name
2006-10-11 05:59:52
Hi Andy, All,

I agree.

But, not only do we need apps, but also the material to
teach the apps to the children.

eg. we have OpenICDL, but that is for adults, what we need
is an OpenICDL for children, possibly one for junior school
and one for high school. 

Here is the OpenICDL material


h
ttp://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod01.pdf
(713kb)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod02_ubu
ntu510.pdf (2.4MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod02_winxp.p
df (3.9MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod03_write
r2.pdf (1.9MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod04_calc2.p
df (2.2MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod05_base2.p
df (1.8MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/mod06_impr
ess2.pdf (2.6MB)
http://www.go-opensource.org/freedom/icdl/
mod07_firfox_thunderbird.pdf (7.0MB)

William

>>> Andy Trevor <andylinescanner.co.uk>
10/10/06 9:39 PM >>>
Dom,

lets go back to your original question.

"establishing Linux as a superior platform to deliver
IT to education"

Currently Linux is an inferior platform to deliver IT in UK
education.

A bold statement from someone who makes a living from
deploying Linux 
for UK education.  Let me expand.

It is inferior for a number of reasons, little of which has
to do with 
Linux itself.

The biggest one of all is lack of good quality curriculum
specific 
education applications.  The UK schools have become heavily
reliant on 
software bought by ELCs.  Most of the packages are baby
sitting rubbish 
but some do have real value.  Until this is addressed by
ISVs 99.9% of 
these apps will stay windows only.  The trouble is they see
little 
market for converting them to Linux due to the small numbers
of schools 
using it as their primary delivery platform.  Schools will
not deploy 
Linux due to the lack of apps.  Chicken and
egg.......................

Secondly,  there seems to be a lack of political will to
push OSS 
forward in education.  Ourselves and colleagues speak to
Becta via 
various channels and get mixed responses.  The introduction
of KS3 
online (term used loosely) testing has proven to be a
stumbling block 
for us in a couple of schools.  It is heavily geared to MS
products, 
making OS platforms especially thin client a real issue. 
Same applies 
for Mac based schools.

Thirdly is the lack of will of current educators to think
outside the 
box and accept change.  There are those out there who can
and do, but 
they are a minority.

Linux as the main delivery platform especially thin client
is a 
financial and management no brainer.  It works and saves
money.  The 
issue lies with the above and will continue to do so for a
while yet.  
Linux installs will be the exception rather than the rule
for the 
foreseeable future.

The quickest way in my opinion to change this is to provide
good quality 
"CROSS PLATFORM" education related apps.  These
will need to be 
curriculum specific in a lot of cases making a world wide
suite a little 
tricky.

Cross platform is the key.  Take away the need for a
specific platform 
and people we go for the cheapest most stable and easy to
manage system 
(Linux thin client)

Soapbox going away now

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Regards

Andy Trevor

Technical Director
Cutter Project Limited
http://www.cutterproje
ct.co.uk

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Linux as a platform
user name
2006-10-11 07:33:57
Cross-posting to edubuntu-users, this thread would probably
be better suited
for their purposes.

> 
> But, not only do we need apps, but also the material to
teach the apps to
> the children.
> 
> eg. we have OpenICDL, but that is for adults, what we
need is an OpenICDL
> for children, possibly one for junior school and one
for high school.
> 

I agree. We have ingredients and now we need more recipes.
OpenICDL is just one avenue though and is designed more to
certify someone's
competence in desktop office and internet use. Even in
Africa I see high
school kids getting OpenICDL certified.

I'm not an educational specialist but a lot of education
systems use very
different learning methadologies. Outcomes based and
activities based
education using ICT's gives kids the exposure they need to
compliment their
learning using technology (they way it will be in real life
unless they grow
into geeks  ) The onus
then falls very largely on the teachers. Other
systems are more rote style, etc.

Regards,
Will van der Leij


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