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Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 12:05:55
In this thread:
h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820

somebody allegedly associated with The American Mutoscope
and 
Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over his
company 
being "done wrong".

>From what I can gather, the company of that name was
active in the 
early days of motion pictures, from the 1890s through the
1920s, but 
faded out and went completely out of business by the 1930s. 
Somebody 
with no apparent true connection with the original company
went into 
business in the 1990s under that name (long after all of the
original 
company's copyrights and trademarks had lapsed into the
public 
domain), and is making questionable claims at being the
legitimate 
continuer of the original company's tradition, along with
some other 
wacky claims such as saying they have purchased land on the
Moon on 
which they soon will be filming movies.

Of course, Wikipedia is "evil" because it fails to
take all of this 
guy's claims at face value, and persists in having an
article about 
the classic original company (which is legitimately notable
in the 
early history of the movie industry) with only a brief
paragraph 
noting the existence of an unrelated new company of the same
name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company

Naturally, this guy's claims and whines are getting a
favorable 
reception over on Wikipedia Review, where they see no
anti-Wikipedia 
rant they don't like.

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 12:15:00
On 31/03/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dantobias.name> wrote:
> In this thread:
> h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820
>
> somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and
> Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over
his company
> being "done wrong".

[...]

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company

"In 2003, Biograph announced that it had acquired title
to 1,777 acres
on the Moon for use as a filming location, and Thomas R.
Bond II
stated that he planned to start filming there by
2008.[24]"

The guy's a kook, evidently.

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 12:29:31
On 3/31/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dantobias.name> wrote:
>
> In this thread:
> h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820
>
> somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and
> Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over
his company
> being "done wrong".
>
> From what I can gather, the company of that name was
active in the
> early days of motion pictures, from the 1890s through
the 1920s, but
> faded out and went completely out of business by the
1930s.  Somebody
> with no apparent true connection with the original
company went into
> business in the 1990s under that name (long after all
of the original
> company's copyrights and trademarks had lapsed into the
public
> domain), and is making questionable claims at being the
legitimate
> continuer of the original company's tradition, along
with some other
> wacky claims such as saying they have purchased land on
the Moon on
> which they soon will be filming movies.
>
> Of course, Wikipedia is "evil" because it
fails to take all of this
> guy's claims at face value, and persists in having an
article about
> the classic original company (which is legitimately
notable in the
> early history of the movie industry) with only a brief
paragraph
> noting the existence of an unrelated new company of the
same name.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company
>
> Naturally, this guy's claims and whines are getting a
favorable
> reception over on Wikipedia Review, where they see no
anti-Wikipedia
> rant they don't like.
>
> --
> == Dan ==
> Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.inf
o/
> Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/

> Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/



Why is the "new" company even mentioned in the
article on American Mutoscope
and Biography--as other than a redirect to its own stub
(probably notable
enough to earn a wittle stubby) ?


>>"In 2003, Biograph announced that it had
acquired title to 1,777 acres
>>on the Moon for use as a filming location, and
Thomas R. Bond II
>>stated that he planned to start filming there by
2008.[24]"

>The guy's a kook, evidently.

>James Farrar james.farrargmail.com

There are plenty of notable kooks, though.

KP
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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 12:36:28
Good grief, even if he weren't a kook, his writing is
atrocious:

"We also was recently hacked and even embezzlement of
funds occurred by 
hacking that coincide with recent Wikipedia activity against
the company"

This guy is planning a trip to the moon?


Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
> In this thread:
> h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820
>
> somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and 
> Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over
his company 
> being "done wrong".
>
> >From what I can gather, the company of that name
was active in the 
> early days of motion pictures, from the 1890s through
the 1920s, but 
> faded out and went completely out of business by the
1930s.  Somebody 
> with no apparent true connection with the original
company went into 
> business in the 1990s under that name (long after all
of the original 
> company's copyrights and trademarks had lapsed into the
public 
> domain), and is making questionable claims at being the
legitimate 
> continuer of the original company's tradition, along
with some other 
> wacky claims such as saying they have purchased land on
the Moon on 
> which they soon will be filming movies.
>
> Of course, Wikipedia is "evil" because it
fails to take all of this 
> guy's claims at face value, and persists in having an
article about 
> the classic original company (which is legitimately
notable in the 
> early history of the movie industry) with only a brief
paragraph 
> noting the existence of an unrelated new company of the
same name.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company
>
> Naturally, this guy's claims and whines are getting a
favorable 
> reception over on Wikipedia Review, where they see no
anti-Wikipedia 
> rant they don't like.
>
>   

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 12:37:36
On 31/03/07, K P <kpbotanygmail.com> wrote:

> Why is the "new" company even mentioned in
the article on American Mutoscope
> and Biography--as other than a redirect to its own stub
(probably notable
> enough to earn a wittle stubby) ?

Good question.

> >>"In 2003, Biograph announced that it had
acquired title to 1,777 acres
> >>on the Moon for use as a filming location, and
Thomas R. Bond II
> >>stated that he planned to start filming there
by 2008.[24]"
>
> >The guy's a kook, evidently.
>
> >James Farrar james.farrargmail.com
>
> There are plenty of notable kooks, though.

This is true, but I don't think I'm one of them 


Trawling through the history, I see that they've been
threatening
legal action since at least November 2005...

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 14:24:59
Apparently even kooks aren't safe from scammers. No one owns
the moon, so
it's impossible for anyone tell sell part of the moon's
surface. It looks
like he's been scammed big time. (This is similar to the
star scam. Some
people were thought that for a certain amount a star would
be named after
them which was fake too).

Mgm


On 3/31/07, James Farrar <james.farrargmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 31/03/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dantobias.name> wrote:
> > In this thread:
> > h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820
> >
> > somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and
> > Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia
over his company
> > being "done wrong".
>
> [...]
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company
>
> "In 2003, Biograph announced that it had acquired
title to 1,777 acres
> on the Moon for use as a filming location, and Thomas
R. Bond II
> stated that he planned to start filming there by
2008.[24]"
>
> The guy's a kook, evidently.
>
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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 14:30:59
On 3/31/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dantobias.name> wrote:
> In this thread:
> h
ttp://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7820
>
> somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and
> Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over
his company
> being "done wrong".
>
> From what I can gather, the company of that name was
active in the
> early days of motion pictures, from the 1890s through
the 1920s, but
> faded out and went completely out of business by the
1930s.  Somebody
> with no apparent true connection with the original
company went into
> business in the 1990s under that name (long after all
of the original
> company's copyrights and trademarks had lapsed into the
public
> domain), and is making questionable claims at being the
legitimate
> continuer of the original company's tradition, along
with some other
> wacky claims such as saying they have purchased land on
the Moon on
> which they soon will be filming movies.
>
> Of course, Wikipedia is "evil" because it
fails to take all of this
> guy's claims at face value, and persists in having an
article about
> the classic original company (which is legitimately
notable in the
> early history of the movie industry) with only a brief
paragraph
> noting the existence of an unrelated new company of the
same name.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mutosc
ope_and_Biograph_Company
>
> Naturally, this guy's claims and whines are getting a
favorable
> reception over on Wikipedia Review, where they see no
anti-Wikipedia
> rant they don't like.

This guy is old news.  I handled his complaints last year as
an OTRS
volunteer.  We got a good laugh out of it, especially the
bit about
him owning filming rights on the Moon, or whatever.

Kelly

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 15:22:48
On 3/31/07, Puppy <puppykillerchihuahua.com>
wrote:
> This guy is planning a trip to the moon?

Maybe we should make a fundraiser to buy him a one-way
ticket...

Magnus

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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 15:46:32
How he even thinks to make a profit from a movie shot on the
moon is beyond
me.
Getting there alone would take about as much as the budget
of at least two
blockbuster films if not more depending on all the new
technology he'd need
to sustain a film crew out there...

Mgm


On 3/31/07, Magnus Manske <magnusmanskegooglemail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/31/07, Puppy <puppykillerchihuahua.com>
wrote:
> > This guy is planning a trip to the moon?
>
> Maybe we should make a fundraiser to buy him a one-way
ticket...
>
> Magnus
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Re: Yet another legal threat
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2007-03-31 16:27:45
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:05:55 -0400, "Daniel R.
Tobias"
<dantobias.name> wrote:

>somebody allegedly associated with The American
Mutoscope and 
>Biograph Company is threatening to sue Wikipedia over
his company 
>being "done wrong".

We deleted this guy's spam links, as I recall.

Guy (JzG)
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tral.co.uk
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edia.org/wiki/User:JzG


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