Re: A simple question

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:34:58, Chris Howie
<cdhowiegmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jonas Rand
<joeyyuancox.net> wrote:
>> Sometimes, the background of Wikipedia is grey, and
sometimes it is white
>>  (see http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Greywiki-screenshot.P
NG and
>>  http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Whitewiki-screenshot
.PNG). This is 
>> both on
>>  Simple English Wikipedia (shown) and the regilar
English Wikipedia. Can
>>  someone explain this phenomenon?
>
> These links are dead.
>
> -- 
> Chris Howie
> http://www.chrishowie.com
> http
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers

The links were dead and refirected to the 404 page right
after I uploaded 
them last night, but now they seem fine. It's odd that you
seem to be the 
only one who doesn't see the images, it might just be your
connection.

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 18:46:37, James Farrar
<james.farrargmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/5/5 Majorly <axel9891googlemail.com>:
>> On 05/05/2008, Nathan <nawrichgmail.com> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Maybe I'm blind, but I'm not seeing a clear
difference between the
>>  > backgrounds on those two images.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Nathan
>>  >
>>
>>  The first image has a grey background on the menu
bar on the left, 
>> whereas
>>  the second image has a white one.
>
> It does? Count me in the "blind" camp...
Are you looking at the background of the page, or are you
looking at the 
background of the "article" content? I'm talking
about the background behind 
the whole page.

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:20:24, Usamah al-Amin
<usamah1228gmail.com> wrote:
> This does not need be called a "phenomenon",
nor a "blind camp" to
> explain it. 
>
> Simply the gray colors comes from the CSS background
declaration on
> the body element:
>
> background: #F9F9F9 url (headbg.jpg) no-repeat scroll
0pt 0pt;
>
> Sometimes. browsers fail to pick up every background
image or CSS
> declaration, so you're left with the default white
background color.
>
> If you're using Firefox, and Firebug installed, you can
disable that
> CSS declaration and see the effect in real time.
>
> Regards,
> Usamah

Thank you very much. That makes sense. 


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Do you have the link to the actual  page?

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonas Rand" <joeyyuancox.net>
To: <wikien-llists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A simple question


>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:34:58, Chris Howie
<cdhowiegmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jonas Rand
<joeyyuancox.net> wrote:
>>> Sometimes, the background of Wikipedia is grey,
and sometimes it is 
>>> white
>>>  (see http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Greywiki-screenshot.P
NG and
>>>  http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Whitewiki-screenshot
.PNG). This is
>>> both on
>>>  Simple English Wikipedia (shown) and the
regilar English Wikipedia. Can
>>>  someone explain this phenomenon?
>>
>> These links are dead.
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris Howie
>> http://www.chrishowie.com
>> http
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers
>
> The links were dead and refirected to the 404 page
right after I uploaded
> them last night, but now they seem fine. It's odd that
you seem to be the
> only one who doesn't see the images, it might just be
your connection.
>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 18:46:37, James Farrar
<james.farrargmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2008/5/5 Majorly <axel9891googlemail.com>:
>>> On 05/05/2008, Nathan <nawrichgmail.com> wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > Maybe I'm blind, but I'm not seeing a
clear difference between the
>>>  > backgrounds on those two images.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > Nathan
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  The first image has a grey background on the
menu bar on the left,
>>> whereas
>>>  the second image has a white one.
>>
>> It does? Count me in the "blind" camp...
> Are you looking at the background of the page, or are
you looking at the
> background of the "article" content? I'm
talking about the background 
> behind
> the whole page.
>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:20:24, Usamah al-Amin
<usamah1228gmail.com> wrote:
>> This does not need be called a
"phenomenon", nor a "blind camp" to
>> explain it. 
>>
>> Simply the gray colors comes from the CSS
background declaration on
>> the body element:
>>
>> background: #F9F9F9 url (headbg.jpg) no-repeat
scroll 0pt 0pt;
>>
>> Sometimes. browsers fail to pick up every
background image or CSS
>> declaration, so you're left with the default white
background color.
>>
>> If you're using Firefox, and Firebug installed, you
can disable that
>> CSS declaration and see the effect in real time.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Usamah
>
> Thank you very much. That makes sense.
>
>
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jonas Rand <joeyyuancox.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:34:58, Chris Howie
<cdhowiegmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jonas Rand
<joeyyuancox.net> wrote:
>  >> Sometimes, the background of Wikipedia is
grey, and sometimes it is white
>  >>  (see http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Greywiki-screenshot.P
NG and
>  >>  http://jonasrand.110mb.com/images/Whitewiki-screenshot
.PNG). This is
>  >> both on
>  >>  Simple English Wikipedia (shown) and the
regilar English Wikipedia. Can
>  >>  someone explain this phenomenon?
>  >
>  > These links are dead.
>  >
>
> > --
>  > Chris Howie
>  > http://www.chrishowie.com
>  > http
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers
>
>  The links were dead and refirected to the 404 page
right after I uploaded
>  them last night, but now they seem fine. It's odd that
you seem to be the
>  only one who doesn't see the images, it might just be
your connection.

Actually the solution of pasting the links instead of
clicking them
did the trick.  I assume many of you are not using a webmail
service,
so when you click the links your email program requests that
your
browser open the URL, in which case there is no sensible
referrer for
the browser to send.  So apparently the site doesn't like
hotlinking
of images.

(And, FWIW, there is absolutely nothing about my actual
connection
that would cause a server to return a 302 status to me and
200 to
others, unless they are doing IP-based blocking.  Or if we
had a
caching proxy server and someone else at my university
subscribes to
this list too and tried to click them before they worked. 
Anyway, I'm
rambling -- I'm just anal about technical stuff and when
someone
claims something very improbable like this I feel the need
to point it
out.

BTW I just finished watching an episode of Big Bang
Theory... is it
sad that right now I'm reminding myself of those guys?)

-- 
Chris Howie
http://www.chrishowie.com
http
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers

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