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Re: Polarization codes
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2008-03-14 15:20:29
Steve Allen wrote:
> On Fri 2008-03-14T02:39:27 +0000, Paddy Leahy hath
writ:
>> Example: From (IQUV) absorption spectra, calculate
the optical depth
>> separately for polarized and unpolarized emission.
The ratio (fractional
>> polarization of optical depth) tells you something
interesting about the
>> absorbing material. The polarized absorption may
also be anisotropic,
>> hence there may be an angle for the polarized
optical depth. This can
>> happen in theory for absorption by Zeeman-split
lines, although I have to
>> admit that I've not heard about a measurement in an
astronomical context.
> 
> Isn't this pretty much the data used by a solar
magnetograph?
> If so, we need input from practicing solar astronomers
before we're done.

I can give you some information from my own experience. 
There are three cases 
that I'm aware of where polarization is important:

1.  Line-of-sight or vector magnetographs
2.  Coronagraphs
3.  Solar radio astronomy

My own experience is with coronagraph data.  There are two
quantities that are 
important in coronagraphic polarimetry, the total brightness
(denoted B), and 
the linearly polarized brightness (pB).  Since the scattered
light from the 
corona is always polarized tangential to the limb, the
actual direction of 
polarization (mu) is not generally of interest, except as a
check on the 
validity of the data.  I will point out, however, that the
definition of the 
angle of polarization as we use it differs by a factor of
two from that 
described in Paddy Leahy's original post.

The coronagraphs on STEREO take measurements at 3
polarization angles separated 
by 120 degrees.  These are stored separately as individual
2D FITS files, with 
the keyword POLAR in the header giving the angle of the
linear polarizer for 
each exposure.  From image triplets the total brightness and
polarized 
brightness images (or the ratio) are formed and stored in
separate 2D FITS 
files.  I doubt it would really be of interest to define a
"polarization axis" 
where both B and pB are combined into a single array.  In
any case, one couldn't 
include the fractional polarization or angle in this scheme
because of the 
different units.

I've talked to some of my colleagues about magnetometer
data, which I'm not as 
familiar with.  Usually, magnetometer data is distributed
already combined into 
physical quantities, such as magnetic field strength, or
azimuth and elevation 
angles.  When the actual polarization state of the data are
distributed, they're 
distributed as I,Q,U,V images, which are already well
covered by the current 
standard.  (However, I'm not aware of anybody who actually
*uses* that standard 
for magnetograph data--probably, they don't even know it
exists.)  The actual 
filtergrams are not routinely distributed.

Finally, I have very little familiarity with solar radio
data.  I'm given to 
understand that radio data are usually distributed as either
separate left and 
right polarization data, or as Stokes I and V, both of which
are covered by the 
current standard.  Some of my colleagues who are more
familiar with radio 
observations are gone for the day, so I may have more to say
on the subject 
later.  In any case, there's a lot of overlap between solar
and celestial radio 
astronomy, e.g. both use the VSO, so I would expect that
community practices 
would be very similar.

Personally, I think that one has to make a distinction
between data axes and 
data types, and they should not be confused together.  The
current Stokes 
standard in the WCS makes a certain amount of sense, because
a "Stokes vector" 
is a well defined quantity.  These other parameters, such as
B and pB, are 
quantities, and should be described as such, e.g. through a
keyword such as 
BYTPE.  One should definitely *not* use degenerate axes for
this kind of 
information.

Bill Thompson


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Re: Polarization codes
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2008-03-19 13:18:53
William Thompson wrote:
> ...  I will point out, however, that the definition of
the
> angle of polarization as we use it differs by a factor
of two from that 
> described in Paddy Leahy's original post.

I double-checked this, and realized that this is incorrect. 
We define 
polarization angle the same way.

Bill Thompson

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Re: Polarization codes
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2008-03-19 13:22:11
William Thompson wrote:

> I've talked to some of my colleagues about magnetometer
data, which I'm not as 
> familiar with.  Usually, magnetometer data is
distributed already combined into 
> physical quantities, such as magnetic field strength,
or azimuth and elevation 
> angles.  When the actual polarization state of the data
are distributed, they're 
> distributed as I,Q,U,V images, which are already well
covered by the current 
> standard.  (However, I'm not aware of anybody who
actually *uses* that standard 
> for magnetograph data--probably, they don't even know
it exists.)  The actual 
> filtergrams are not routinely distributed.

A little more information about this.  Apparently some data
are distributed with 
wavelength along one dimension, and the Stokes values at
each wavelength along 
the other dimension.  Other data are distributed with the
I,Q,U,V values derived 
from integrals over the line profile.

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William Thompson
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Code 671
Greenbelt, MD  20771
USA

301-286-2040
William.T.Thompsonnasa.gov

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