Re: Echo cursor theme

On 21/03/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedoranicubunu.ro> wrote:

> Martin Sourada wrote:
> > So what about making an Echo cursor theme?

> I don't think anyone would oppose such a project. Start
a cursor theme
> and if it will look better then probably it will be
used.

Over lunch, I have done some quick paper sketches which I
shall upload
to my page this evening.

>
> A cursor theme has a relatively small number of images,
so the quantity
> is not the main problem, the main problem is optimizing
the images for
> small size display.

The arrow in the icon that Martin referenced suits this
anyway. My
idea may need some development but it's a little more
graphically
inteesting than that large white arrow.

> And my two cents: usually the mouse cursor is shown
over a light
> background, so I think a dark theme make sense as the
default.

+1.
An inverted outline could be used as well.

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Ben Arnold napsal(a):
> On 21/03/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedoranicubunu.ro> wrote:
> 
>> Martin Sourada wrote:
>> > So what about making an Echo cursor theme?
> 
>> I don't think anyone would oppose such a project.
Start a cursor theme
>> and if it will look better then probably it will be
used.
> 
> Over lunch, I have done some quick paper sketches which
I shall upload
> to my page this evening.
> 
Will we make some wiki page for them (like EchoDevelopment)
to easily track
which ones need to be done now, or just start with
sketches?

>>
>> A cursor theme has a relatively small number of
images, so the quantity
>> is not the main problem, the main problem is
optimizing the images for
>> small size display.
> 
> The arrow in the icon that Martin referenced suits this
anyway. My
> idea may need some development but it's a little more
graphically
> inteesting than that large white arrow.
>
Well, I quite like that arrow, it's not large white... it
has some gradient and
some depth, but I am certainly looking forward to your
sketches.

>> And my two cents: usually the mouse cursor is shown
over a light
>> background, so I think a dark theme make sense as
the default.
> 
> +1.
> An inverted outline could be used as well.
> 

+1

Thanks,
Martin


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Ben Arnold wrote:
> On 21/03/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedoranicubunu.ro> wrote:
> 
>> A cursor theme has a relatively small number of
images, so the quantity
>> is not the main problem, the main problem is
optimizing the images for
>> small size display.
> 
> The arrow in the icon that Martin referenced suits this
anyway. My
> idea may need some development but it's a little more
graphically
> inteesting than that large white arrow.

One more detail to keep in mind for design: we have 3 sizes
for cursors 
- 24x24, 36x36 and 48x48, with 24x24 being the default.

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Martin Sourada wrote:
> 
> Will we make some wiki page for them (like
EchoDevelopment) to easily track
> which ones need to be done now, or just start with
sketches?

Sure, start a wiki page and post the sketches on that page.

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On 21/03/07, Martin Sourada <martin.souradaseznam.cz> wrote:
> Martin Sourada napsal(a):
> > I created subpage in my personal wiki page for
start [1]. Please feel free to
> > edit it. Please add you sketches there. After we
make some decision about
> > default look (i.e. pick one of the different type
of sketches if there is more
> > than one) we will make also a page to track
process, like we have for
> > EchoDevelopment.
> >
> > References:
> > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/EchoCurso
rTheme

I think if we put both our current pages on the front
Artwork page
under Artwork/EchoCursors and Artwork/EchoLoading, it would
encourage
more people to get involved if they want to and it seems
this will
continue. What do you think?

> Hi again,
>
> I created and posted first sketch on the Echo Cursor
Theme page [1]. Feel free
> to derive your sketches from it, polish it or post
completely new sketches. Also
> feel free to edit the page if you find there any
mistake, or if you can add
> there something that is not already there. And, of
course, any comments on my
> sketch are appreciated.

I like the idea, similar to [1] and the one I have drawn
[2]. The
outlining is good and these were exactly the colours I had
in mind!

I think the 3D effect works more on the right-handed ones
because the
angle on the lefties is slightly off. It seems to give a bit
more
contrast, too.

./b

P.S. I hope the edit went okay as it seems there have been
server
problems and a lot of stuff wasn't as it should have been.

1.  http://www.kde-look.org/c
ontent/preview.php?preview=2&id=32437&file1=32437-1.
png&file2=32437-2.png&file3=&name=BlueShinyCurso
rs

2.  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/EchoCurs
orTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=BA-Arrows-M
ar21.jpg

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On 22/03/07, Máirín Duffy <duffyredhat.com> wrote:
> I think your drawings and sketches for the Echo cursors
look great! I'm
> very impressed.

Thanks 

> One thing I would suggest, though, is maybe trying to
> use some of them over a time and see how they 'feel'
(does that make
> sense?) Sometimes with graphics like these that are
always visible on
> the desktop, it's hard to tell without *using* them how
well they work.
> Does it sound like a good idea that we can try some of
the new cursors
> to see how they feel?

That's very true. I find working on paper first gives a bit
of
breathing space for when it comes to making them digitally.
It's about
getting the balence right which isn't helped by having a
white piece
of paper and a bluey/grey/black/white/nearly-everything
desktop!

> I think for us to test the echo cursors we would have
to build them with
> a tool called xcursorgen:
>
> http
://www.xfree86.org/current/xcursorgen.1.html

Might have a play with that sometime, thanks for the info.

./b
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