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Re: Wiki Theme
user name
2007-03-28 02:34:23
Wow, cool.

On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:59 -0400, Máirí­n Duffy wrote:

> Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more
cowbell/bling!), 
> I do think the theme addresses some of my long time
usability nags with 
> our current theme (the placement of the account
preferences always 
> bugged me, for example). 

You took care of one that has long bugged me, the content
getting tucked
under the right nav bar.  I tested a table layout, and it
worked great:

http:
//wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/TableTest

I'm very very very happy with that look.  I also like how
the text wraps
around the nav element, as seen here;

http://wiki.lin
uxgrrl.com/MairinDuffy

> I was also looking to come up with a style that 
> would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could
use the wiki for 
> being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more
carefully for 
> non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora -
see the navbar in 
> the mocks? (not in the theme yet)

+1  Yes, this design separates the Wiki-ness in a way that
we can use it
for multiple faces.  Perhaps the Edit etc. tools can be a
general tools
area where the Web-app specific tools are displayed.

I notice the "More Actions:" drop-down is missing;
is that intentional?
Perhaps it could sneak back into the right-side menu?  Or
does it belong
with the other action tools?

> I figured I would send this out so more people knew
about it (folks have 
> been helping me out with it this weekend in
#fedora-admin). If anybody 
> has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise
 )
let's discuss it!

One thing that is bothering my eyes is the way the Edit et
al tools
bounce when moused-over.  The cool highlighting (I like)
makes the other
elements shift out of the way when it is activated (I don't
like).

The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little
plain/unadorned.
It could use something to make it stand out just a bit. 
Faint border
around it?  I'd also like to see the sub-headers not get so
much leading
space. 

One thing I wonder ... the color of the general paragraph
and header
font is a medium gray.  I've heard about some advantages to
doing that,
and it looks fine for me.  I'm wondering how it looks for
people with
worse vision than mine.  I reckon Paul Frields saw this
already, and he
is usually one of my bellwethers in this regard.

Formatting example:


http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/FormattingTest

Other feature ideas ...

* Use some of the banner space to display the Fedora News
feed; we're
going to be doing a more regular update (daily?), so the
content would
be fresher.

* Replace the search with a fancy, AJAX search (with an
elegant failure
method) that searches across all Fedora websites.  Maybe the
fancy AJAX
allows for inline filtering of searches, etc.

cheers - Karsten
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Re: Wiki Theme
user name
2007-03-30 14:40:19
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:34 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:

> The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little
plain/unadorned.
> It could use something to make it stand out just a bit.
 Faint border
> around it?  I'd also like to see the sub-headers not
get so much leading
> space. 

BTW, as a comparison, I have come to think that the current
style in the
Wiki for a ToC is a little much.  The background image
forces a width to
the table that doesn't flow as well.

For example, I put it on the right in this situation so the
image would
push under the navbar.  Otherwise, put on the left, it
forces the image
to be pushed to the right:

http://fedo
raproject.org/wiki/KarstenWade

- Karsten
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