Location bar: a simple design

I mocked up the simple location bar proposal described in
my recent post on the Location Bar thread.

Here it is for your consideration:

http://zesty.ca/m
ozilla/locbar.html

Again, the proposal is just two changes to the location
bar:

  - When focus is outside the URL edit field, most of the
URL
    is faded out except the significant part (TLD + 1) of
the domain.

  - Favicons do not appear in the location bar.

Otherwise the location bar looks and behaves just like it
does in today's Firefox.


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On Apr 12, 12:44 am, "Ka-Ping Yee" <goo...zesty.ca> wrote:
> I mocked up the simple location bar proposal described
in
> my recent post on the Location Bar thread.
>
> Here it is for your consideration:
>
> http://zesty.ca/m
ozilla/locbar.html
>
> Again, the proposal is just two changes to the location
bar:
>
>   - When focus is outside the URL edit field, most of
the URL
>     is faded out except the significant part (TLD + 1)
of the domain.
>
>   - Favicons do not appear in the location bar.
>
> Otherwise the location bar looks and behaves just like
it
> does in today's Firefox.
>
> -- ?!ng

Is there a real place to discuss these changes and offer
suggestions?
I'll put mine here.

I think that removing the favicon entirely is a bad idea.
Its a
feature people have grown accustomed to, so having something
there is
important. I'm even less of a fan of only showing something
there when
pages are secure. I'd suggest instead of using the favicon,
that space
be used to show security stuff all the time. If a page is
insecure,
give the user some indication. If it is secure, give the
user some
indication (and make sure that the icons are more
descriptive than
just a padlock). Maybe buttin-ify it like the Go button, so
that users
can click and get a drop down of options like "Page
Info" and "Create
a Desktop Shortcut". That way, it isn't spoofable, but
its still there
to give a user experience consistent with what people
expect, and can
provide more visible access to features and data that often
aren't
seen.

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On Apr 12, 11:36 am, "DigDug" <holden...gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a real place to discuss these changes and
offer suggestions?
> I'll put mine here.

Sure.  I think this is the right place.

> I think that removing the favicon entirely is a bad
idea.

Just to be clear, there will still be favicons on the tabs
in this
proposal.  I'm not sure if you're okay with that, but I
wanted to
clarify that favicons won't be gone entirely from the
browser.  They
just won't appear in the location bar because we don't want
attackers
to mess with the appearance of any part of the chrome.

I'm not sure I understand the alternative you're suggesting.
 If
security info is supposed to appear there in addition to the
favicon,
what's to prevent an attacker from confusing users with a
favicon that
looks like whatever security indicator we use?


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