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FLV Encoding at 640x480 & Frame dropping
user name
2007-01-27 03:51:27
Hi List,

We've been frustrated with our client trying to bring the
best smoothest
experience of playing video at 640x480 (stretched to
fullscreen). Does
anyone know what exact encoding settings for a movie with a
lot of motion,
to play fullscreen at that resolution without stalling and
dropping frames ?

I am streaming over FMS, got the latest updates for FMS,
FLVPlayback and
Flash Player.

 I know FMS drops frames when the bandwidth is
insuffiecient, and I know it
favors Audio then netstream calls and then it may drop video
frames based on
whats left of the bandwidth.

But if I even encoded at 640x480 with NO audio at all it
still drop frames,
we're currently using On2 VP6. Should we try Sorenson ? Any
ideas PLEASE
help !

Thank you
Yehia
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math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:09:05
Hi,

I'm kind of disapointed :
trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
but :
trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
...
is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it should
be normal ?

thx

N.

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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:22:02
Hi,
multiply everything with 1000 before, and divide by 1000
after?
greetz
JC


On 1/27/07, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm kind of disapointed :
> trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
> but :
> trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
> trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
> ...
> is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it
should be normal ?
>
> thx
>
> N.
>
> --
> Nicolas TASKY
> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>
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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:27:14
 > I'm kind of disapointed :
 > trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
 > but :
 > trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
 > trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
 > ...
 > is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it
should be normal ?

http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mail
man/htdig/flashcoders/2002-October/049213.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point#Accurac
y_problems

Short answer: that's expected, happens with every language,
use rounding 
if you need, etc.


Zeh
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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:27:21
hello 

the float number are a problem in Actionscript 

you can read this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating-point_numberabout this problem.

If you want fixed this problem you can use the NumberUtil
class of my
openSource framework VEGAS :

1 - the page of the project to download the AS2 : framework
http://vegas.riaforge.org/


2 - Use  a Subversion(SVN) client to download the framework
or download the
zip

3 - install the classpath ol vegas in your flash IDE in the
preference ->
ActionScript2 preference ... add the AS2/trunk/src directory

4 - Use the NumberUtil class, example :

import vegas.util.NumberUtil ;

var result = Number(NumberUtil.toFixed(9.3 - 9, 1)) ;
trace(result) ; // 0.3

var result = Number(NumberUtil.toFixed(100.3-100, 1)) ;
trace(result) ; // 0.3

EKA+ 


2007/1/27, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm kind of disapointed :
> trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
> but :
> trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
> trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
> ...
> is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it
should be normal ?
>
> thx
>
> N.
>
> --
> Nicolas TASKY
> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>
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SCORM?
user name
2007-01-27 07:38:58
I did a small quiz for a client and now they've decided to
make it integrate 
into their LMS. I did some looking and it seems using
external interface and 
calling the LMS like so:
ExternalInterface.call("LMSInitialize"); should 
work pretty well. However two things are not making sense to
me. I see how I 
can call LMSSetValue to set the users score but I only see
min, max, and raw 
score entries. The quiz has 21 questions, can I not track
the response for 
each question?
Finally, this quiz has a bunch of associated FLV's - 50MB
worth. Can the 
video content be kept outside of the SCO package? Does it
need to be 
included in the manifest XML file? I thought I could just
place the flvs on 
their server and reference them from Flash... that's what I
was hoping.

Thanks for any insight.


Dave -
Head Developer
www.blurredistinction.com
Adobe Community Expert
http://www.
adobe.com/communities/experts/ 

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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:40:55
hi,
well I'm trying to do a financial application, so it's going
to be too heavy 
to do additionnal operation

N.
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ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426

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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation


Hi,
multiply everything with 1000 before, and divide by 1000
after?
greetz
JC


On 1/27/07, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm kind of disapointed :
> trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
> but :
> trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
> trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
> ...
> is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it
should be normal ?
>
> thx
>
> N.
>
> --
> Nicolas TASKY
> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>
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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 07:43:04
thx to all of you guys. Going to read all of that 

N.

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From: "eka" <ekameleongmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation


> hello 
>
> the float number are a problem in Actionscript 
>
> you can read this article
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating-point_numberabout this problem.
>
> If you want fixed this problem you can use the
NumberUtil class of my
> openSource framework VEGAS :
>
> 1 - the page of the project to download the AS2 :
framework
> http://vegas.riaforge.org/

>
> 2 - Use  a Subversion(SVN) client to download the
framework or download 
> the
> zip
>
> 3 - install the classpath ol vegas in your flash IDE in
the preference ->
> ActionScript2 preference ... add the AS2/trunk/src
directory
>
> 4 - Use the NumberUtil class, example :
>
> import vegas.util.NumberUtil ;
>
> var result = Number(NumberUtil.toFixed(9.3 - 9, 1)) ;
> trace(result) ; // 0.3
>
> var result = Number(NumberUtil.toFixed(100.3-100, 1))
;
> trace(result) ; // 0.3
>
> EKA+ 
>
>
> 2007/1/27, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm kind of disapointed :
>> trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
>> but :
>> trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
>> trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
>> ...
>> is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has it
should be normal ?
>>
>> thx
>>
>> N.
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas TASKY
>> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
>> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>>
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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 08:17:26
If you're doing a financial application, it's important that
you address
this correctly: fast but giving the wrong answer isn't an
option.

I have worked on some systems where the front end gave one
figure, but the
back end reporting function gave another because this wasn't
properly
addressed..

As a financial application developer, it's surprising you
weren't already
aware of the inaccuracy of floating point.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ntasky" <ntaskygmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation


> hi,
> well I'm trying to do a financial application, so it's
going to be too
heavy
> to do additionnal operation
>
> N.
> -- 
> Nicolas TASKY
> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hans Wichman" <j.c.wichmanobjectpainters.com>
> To: "Flashcoders mailing list"
<flashcoderschattyfig.figleaf.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation
>
>
> Hi,
> multiply everything with 1000 before, and divide by
1000 after?
> greetz
> JC
>
>
> On 1/27/07, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm kind of disapointed :
> > trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
> > but :
> > trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
> > trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
> > ...
> > is there a way that it can traces always 0.3 has
it should be normal ?
> >
> > thx
> >
> > N.
> >
> > --
> > Nicolas TASKY
> > conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
> > ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
> >
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Re: math simple operation
user name
2007-01-27 08:29:57
Knowledge of arithmetic would seem to be the sort of thing
one would 
expect in a financial "expert". 

Although to be fair, this does crop up about once a quarter
in the forum 
as a new person discovers one of the hidden joys of using a
computer 
that does not have 10 fingers to work with.

Ron


Paul Andrews wrote:
> If you're doing a financial application, it's important
that you address
> this correctly: fast but giving the wrong answer isn't
an option.
>
> I have worked on some systems where the front end gave
one figure, but the
> back end reporting function gave another because this
wasn't properly
> addressed..
>
> As a financial application developer, it's surprising
you weren't already
> aware of the inaccuracy of floating point.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ntasky" <ntaskygmail.com>
> To: "Flashcoders mailing list"
<flashcoderschattyfig.figleaf.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation
>
>
>   
>> hi,
>> well I'm trying to do a financial application, so
it's going to be too
>>     
> heavy
>   
>> to do additionnal operation
>>
>> N.
>> -- 
>> Nicolas TASKY
>> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
>> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hans Wichman" <j.c.wichmanobjectpainters.com>
>> To: "Flashcoders mailing list"
<flashcoderschattyfig.figleaf.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] math simple operation
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> multiply everything with 1000 before, and divide by
1000 after?
>> greetz
>> JC
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/07, ntasky <ntaskygmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm kind of disapointed :
>>> trace (1.3-1) // traces:0.3
>>> but :
>>> trace (9.3-9) // traces: 0.300000000000001
>>> trace (100.3-100) //traces: 0.299999999999997
>>> ...
>>> is there a way that it can traces always 0.3
has it should be normal ?
>>>
>>> thx
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nicolas TASKY
>>> conseil, analyse et développement multimédia
>>> ntasky.com - (514) 839-6426
>>>
>>>
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