Flock Blog Spam

Lately, I have gotten a lot of email of spam comment updates
to Flock
blog posts that I have subscribed to. So effectively, I am
receiving
Flock blog spam :(

Example:
http://www.flock.com/blog/0-7-4-incremental-rel
ease#comment-32103

Maybe try the Drupal Akismet module? Of course, I am not
writing this
to push the fantastic blog spam solution that my company
produces 
Any solution will make me happy.

Looking forward to the next release,
Lloyd
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Hi, Lloyd. I'm aware of the spam problem. We've tried a
couple of fixes 
that haven't worked, and we're hoping to have something in
place fairly 
soon. I had thought recently about turning off the
notifications to at 
least prevent spam in the short term, if at the expense of
notifications 
(we'd email any who have subscribed to topics to let them
know of the 
change). What do people think about this idea?

Using the Akismet module is the next thing on my list to
try, actually, 
but I've been reluctant to try it in production. Can you by
chance point 
me to any case studies about the use of Akismet in Drupal,
how effective 
it is, whether it results in page load slowdowns, etc.? If
not, I'll do 
my own homework, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for
bringing this up,

D


Lloyd D Budd wrote:
> Lately, I have gotten a lot of email of spam comment
updates to Flock
> blog posts that I have subscribed to. So effectively, I
am receiving
> Flock blog spam :(
> 
> Example:
> http://www.flock.com/blog/0-7-4-incremental-rel
ease#comment-32103
> 
> Maybe try the Drupal Akismet module? Of course, I am
not writing this
> to push the fantastic blog spam solution that my
company produces 
> Any solution will make me happy.
> 
> Looking forward to the next release,
> Lloyd
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I would strongly advise the use of Akismet if spam is that
bad on the
blog -- even if there's a slow down (and there shouldn't be,
since it
filters spam on the server-side) it's worth it.

Ma.gnolia uses it to great success filtering out spammy
bookmarks and
everyone I know who has a blog uses it. WIthout it, you're
seriously a
sitting duck.

Chris

On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
> Hi, Lloyd. I'm aware of the spam problem. We've tried a
couple of fixes
> that haven't worked, and we're hoping to have something
in place fairly
> soon. I had thought recently about turning off the
notifications to at
> least prevent spam in the short term, if at the expense
of notifications
> (we'd email any who have subscribed to topics to let
them know of the
> change). What do people think about this idea?
>
> Using the Akismet module is the next thing on my list
to try, actually,
> but I've been reluctant to try it in production. Can
you by chance point
> me to any case studies about the use of Akismet in
Drupal, how effective
> it is, whether it results in page load slowdowns, etc.?
If not, I'll do
> my own homework, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for
bringing this up,
>
> D
>
>
> Lloyd D Budd wrote:
> > Lately, I have gotten a lot of email of spam
comment updates to Flock
> > blog posts that I have subscribed to. So
effectively, I am receiving
> > Flock blog spam :(
> >
> > Example:
> > http://www.flock.com/blog/0-7-4-incremental-rel
ease#comment-32103
> >
> > Maybe try the Drupal Akismet module? Of course, I
am not writing this
> > to push the fantastic blog spam solution that my
company produces 
> > Any solution will make me happy.
> >
> > Looking forward to the next release,
> > Lloyd
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> > Flockstarsflock.com
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tp://lists.flock.com/mailman/listinfo/flockstars
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El 02-04-07 a las 20:29:31 Daryl L. L. Houston escribió:
> Using the Akismet module is the next thing on my list
to try, actually,
> but I've been reluctant to try it in production. Can
you by chance point
> me to any case studies about the use of Akismet in
Drupal, how effective
> it is, whether it results in page load slowdowns, etc.?
If not, I'll do
> my own homework, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for
bringing this up,

I manage a forum in my school and I use a challenge question
system: the 
question have to be so easy any human can answer it but so
dynamic a bot 
cannot. For example: "Of what color is the white
Santiago's horse?" 
or "What's the name of the social browser this blog is
about?".

I think 5 or 6 different questions should stop spambots and
smpambots' 
programmers from spamming!

What do you thing about this? It's a substitute to image
captchas, and much 
better for people with viewing problems (like blind
people).

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On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
>
> Using the Akismet module is the next thing on my list
to try, actually,
> but I've been reluctant to try it in production. Can
you by chance point
> me to any case studies about the use of Akismet in
Drupal, how effective
> it is, whether it results in page load slowdowns, etc.?
If not, I'll do
> my own homework, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for
bringing this up,

I instant messaged Richard Eriksson of Bryght and his
recommendation
is also Akismet.

"it doesn't result in page slowdowns
not for me at least, and I have mucho comment spam
99%+ gets caught by Akismet (alas not even Akismet is
perfect, but what is?)"

Richard understandably deals with a lot of Drupal production
system,
so although not concrete (case studies), he would not make
that
recommendation lightly.

Hope that helps,
Lloyd
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On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
> Lloyd D Budd wrote:
> >
> > Richard understandably deals with a lot of Drupal
production system,
> > so although not concrete (case studies), he would
not make that
> > recommendation lightly.
> >
> > Hope that helps,
>
> Thanks, Lloyd. It does help, though as I point out in a
message that
> should arrive at about the same time this one does, now
that I think
> about it, switching spam modules may not solve our
problem, as the
> problem is one of interplay among modules, which the
akismet module
> presumably will share. The deficiency I believe is more
in the
> subscriptions module than in the spam module.

I see. Well, you clearly have a spam not being caught
problem as well,
says 13 comments on
h
ttp://www.flock.com/blog/0-7-4-incremental-release .
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On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
> We'll try to address both, of course. My point was
merely that while
> akismet may help to solve the one problem, it may or
may not help with
> what I think is the more pressing problem.

Great, thanks Daryl!

I had hoped that
Bug 4967 Forum subscription notices send even for
unpublished spam comments
had been fixed, but I now see that it hasn't.

I am surprised that Bug 4967 is not a well understood and
fixed
problem in the Drupal community.

Cheers,
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On 4/2/07, Lloyd Budd <flockoydgmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
> > We'll try to address both, of course. My point was
merely that while
> > akismet may help to solve the one problem, it may
or may not help with
> > what I think is the more pressing problem.
>
> Great, thanks Daryl!
>
> I had hoped that
> Bug 4967 Forum subscription notices send even for
unpublished spam comments
> had been fixed, but I now see that it hasn't.
>
> I am surprised that Bug 4967 is not a well understood
and fixed
> problem in the Drupal community.

I think Lloyd nailed it after Daryl's explanation -- it's
just a
matter of getting the subscription module to send out the
notifications only *after* a comment has been approved.

Chris

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El 02-04-07 a las 21:02:43 Daryl L. L. Houston escribió:
> The problem is that our site does manage to unpublish
most spam as soon
> as it's submitted. But we also run a module that sends
users
> notifications on topic updates if they've opted for the
notifications.
> What's happening is that the spam is getting caught and
unpublished, but
> not before the notification module sends an email to
interested users.

Ok, I understood it.

Can't you seek/debug the Drupal system installed (is it
PHP/MySQL based?) to 
block the spam before sending notification emails?

I offer myself to do this if needed .

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On 4/2/07, Daryl L. L. Houston <darylflock.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody got any thoughts about whether it would be
prudent to disable
> notifications until we do have a fix?

Sounds like a plan.

Prudently,
Lloyd
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