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Why FreeBSD Trolls Suck
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2006-10-27 00:35:24
So I wanted to apologize for sending such an angry email to
this list, 
especially without giving more detail as was mentioned in
the Milo Hyson 
email response.  I had spent some time not being able to use
FreeBSD as a 
stable workstation because of hardware compatibility issues
on a Gateway 
machine.  During that time I had been forced to run Windows
or Linux as my 
desktop which sucks.  I bought a new Dell E521 machine with
a pretty vanilla 
hardware spec, and didn’t before I bought it check to see if
FreeBSD would 
support it.  This is my fault, but in my defense at this
stage in the game 
you’d think FreeBSD would support things like USB, SATA
drives, CD-ROMS, etc 
especially when I'm running 5.x and 6.x on my servers at
work.

When my machine came in I was very excited to start
installing FreeBSD so I 
could once again have a real workstation.  I tried
installing 6.1 amd64 and 
it crashed before it even finished loading.  It crashed
because of USB 
issues.  I unplugged the keyboard and then it hung on the
SATA drive.  I had 
problems with amd and non-amd branches ranging from 5.x and
6.x.  So I 
burned a 7.0 install disc and it still crashed if the USB
keyboard was 
plugged in, but at least didn’t hang on the SATA drive.  Go
to install and 
the CD-ROM is not recognized (though I’m sitting in
sysinstall because I 
booted from disc). So I ended up FTP’ing 6.2-Beta2 and
actually made it 
through the install. Yay!

But now I can’t reboot my machine with the mouse or keyboard
plugged into 
it, I can’t use my cd-rom, the sound doesn’t work and my
mouse freezes all 
the time making this another desktop that I can’t run
FreeBSD on.  I’m not 
new to this OS and I have spent more time than I care to
recall hacking 
through these issues, rewriting code and so on.  And during
the 4.x years 
and even 5.x I accepted this and moved on.  But at this
stage in the game I 
figured that the OS would be at a point where it could
handle a vanilla 
spec’d Dell.  I’m willing to blame Gateway, I’m willing to
blame Dell, if it 
weren’t for the fact that I can install several versions of
Linux and 
Windows with no issues.  It's hard convincing people to
switch from Windows 
or Linux when you can't even install the OS on a generic PC.

I don’t want to run Windows, I don’t want to run Linux, I
just wanted a 
freakin BSD box again.  So yeah, I was really pissed and yes
I acted like a 
troll.  I apologize for that, but I still stand behind the
fact that at this 
stage in the game, after all these years these types of
fundamental issues 
should not be happening and while it’s lame to flame the
mailing list 
because of my frustration its even more lame I don’t get to
run FreeBSD.  
And what really sucks is finally getting new people to check
out this OS I 
have been pushing only to find they can't use if if they
want a keyboard, or 
a mouse or a cd-rom or a sound card installed.

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