some simple Questions

Hi all,

I am new to Freebsd tho, long time Linux/Windows user.

install software:
seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r software-name

system update:
still not sure? tho this is probly something really simple,
seems more the
one way to do it.

main difference between packages and ports?


thanks in adavnce.


-Nex6
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In response to Nex6 <myndshellgmail.com>:
> 
> install software:
> seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r software-name

packages: use pkg_add -r
ports: cd /usr/ports/category/port-name && make
install

See:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/b
ooks/handbook/ports.html

> system update:
> still not sure? tho this is probly something really
simple, seems more the
> one way to do it.

cvsup is the canonical way:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8
859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

But stuff like freebsd-upate has streamlined this a lot:
http://www
.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/

> main difference between packages and ports?
Packages are precompiled.  Ports are not.  Ports can be made
into
packages, the reverse is not true.  See the above link.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech
.com
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On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 10:32 -0800, Nex6 wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am new to Freebsd tho, long time Linux/Windows user.
> 
> install software:
> seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r software-name

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/b
ooks/handbook/ports.html
(you may also have the handbook localy in /usr/share/doc)
  
> 
> system update:
> still not sure? tho this is probly something really
simple, seems more the
> one way to do it.

have a look at 'man freebsd-update'

> 
> main difference between packages and ports?

se handbook above

> 
> 
> thanks in adavnce.
> 
> 
> -Nex6
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Nex6 <myndshellgmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  I am new to Freebsd tho, long time Linux/Windows
user.
>
>  install software:
>  seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r software-name

There are two ways to install software. Using packages
(pkg_add) or
using ports. See my response below for details on how to use
ports.

>  system update:
>  still not sure? tho this is probly something really
simple, seems more the
>  one way to do it.

FreeBSD comes with the source code for the entire system.
So, to
upgrade the system, you need to do two things:
1. Checkout the source code for whatever update you want to
use
2. Compile and install that source code.

For the first one, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/b
ooks/handbook/cvsup.html

For the second one, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859
-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

>  main difference between packages and ports?

Packages are pre-compiled binaries (which are created from
the ports).
The ports collection contains small Makefiles. When you
install from
ports, it does the following:
1. Downloads the source code from whatever website it is
hosted on.
2. Apply the FreeBSD patches/upgrades/whatever
3. Compile that source code
4. Install the binaries to the proper location

>
>  thanks in adavnce.
>
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Schiz0
<schiz0phrenic21gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Nex6 <myndshellgmail.com> wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  >  I am new to Freebsd tho, long time Linux/Windows
user.
>  >
>  >  install software:
>  >  seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r
software-name
>
>  There are two ways to install software. Using packages
(pkg_add) or
>  using ports. See my response below for details on how
to use ports.
>
>
>  >  system update:
>  >  still not sure? tho this is probly something
really simple, seems more the
>  >  one way to do it.
>
>  FreeBSD comes with the source code for the entire
system. So, to
>  upgrade the system, you need to do two things:
>  1. Checkout the source code for whatever update you
want to use
>  2. Compile and install that source code.
>
>  For the first one, see:
>  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/b
ooks/handbook/cvsup.html
>
>  For the second one, see:
>  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859
-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
>
>
>  >  main difference between packages and ports?
>
>  Packages are pre-compiled binaries (which are created
from the ports).
>  The ports collection contains small Makefiles. When
you install from
>  ports, it does the following:
>  1. Downloads the source code from whatever website it
is hosted on.
>  2. Apply the FreeBSD patches/upgrades/whatever
>  3. Compile that source code
>  4. Install the binaries to the proper location
>
>  >
>  >  thanks in adavnce.
>  >
>

Ah, something I forgot to add.

The only reason the packages system exist is basically to
bypass the
compile time. For example, it would take a long time to
compile things
such as OpenOffice, xorg, or KDE. So instead of waiting that
long, you
can just install the pre-compiled package and it's ready to
go. You
don't have to wait for it to compile.
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Been reading the FreeBSD handbook,

I installed portsnap:
ran:
portsnap fetch & extract & update

then installed portmanager and ran portmanager -u

its now updating.

thanks, for all the replys, in linux land, you either, use
the distros tool
(if they have one) or if your on a yum or apt based disrto
use that.


-Nex6

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Schiz0
<schiz0phrenic21gmail.com> wrote:

>  On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Schiz0
<schiz0phrenic21gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Nex6
<myndshellgmail.com> wrote:
> >  > Hi all,
> >  >
> >  >  I am new to Freebsd tho, long time
Linux/Windows user.
> >  >
> >  >  install software:
> >  >  seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r
software-name
> >
> >  There are two ways to install software. Using
packages (pkg_add) or
> >  using ports. See my response below for details on
how to use ports.
> >
> >
> >  >  system update:
> >  >  still not sure? tho this is probly
something really simple, seems
> more the
> >  >  one way to do it.
> >
> >  FreeBSD comes with the source code for the entire
system. So, to
> >  upgrade the system, you need to do two things:
> >  1. Checkout the source code for whatever update
you want to use
> >  2. Compile and install that source code.
> >
> >  For the first one, see:
> >  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/b
ooks/handbook/cvsup.html
> >
> >  For the second one, see:
> >
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859
-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
> >
> >
> >  >  main difference between packages and
ports?
> >
> >  Packages are pre-compiled binaries (which are
created from the ports).
> >  The ports collection contains small Makefiles.
When you install from
> >  ports, it does the following:
> >  1. Downloads the source code from whatever
website it is hosted on.
> >  2. Apply the FreeBSD patches/upgrades/whatever
> >  3. Compile that source code
> >  4. Install the binaries to the proper location
> >
> >  >
> >  >  thanks in adavnce.
> >  >
> >
>
> Ah, something I forgot to add.
>
> The only reason the packages system exist is basically
to bypass the
> compile time. For example, it would take a long time to
compile things
> such as OpenOffice, xorg, or KDE. So instead of waiting
that long, you
> can just install the pre-compiled package and it's
ready to go. You
> don't have to wait for it to compile.
>
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> I am new to Freebsd tho, long time Linux/Windows user.
>
> install software:
> seems the way to to this is pkg_add -r software-name
>
> system update:
> still not sure? tho this is probly something really
simple, seems more the
> one way to do it.
>
> main difference between packages and ports?
files in /usr/ports are rules and patches to build programs
from sources, 
excluding sources (which are downloaded when you type make
or make 
install)
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