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dedicated server specs / 7.0-Release
user name
2008-03-18 12:33:58
Hello,

We will be moving shortly to a dedicated server at a data
center and
we have been suggested a machine with the below
specifications.
However, the provider uses Fedora exclusively, so they will
do an
initial install of FreeBSD but then I am on my own. Tough
luck but I
am not going to give up on FBSD. However, before I progress,
I would
like to know if I am all right with such a machine under 7.0
Release.

Main board INTEL BLKDQ35JOE Q35 LGA 775
PROCESSOR CORE 2 DUO E6750 2.66GHz LGA775
2xHDD SEAGATE 250GB ST3250620NS SATA II 16MB
2GB RAM

Many thanks! I really appreciate all the advice I have been
getting from you!

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Re: dedicated server specs / 7.0-Release
user name
2008-03-18 13:42:38
hello,

2008/3/18, Christian Zachariasen <chrizachgmail.com>:
> Depending on what you're doing you might clarify what
you are planning on
> doing with the disks.
> Are you running them in any form of RAID?
>
> In a some cases it might be smarter to go for
"better" drives (made for
> operating 24/7).
>  That being said, I've often used shitty drives myself
on servers that have
> been up for ages at a time.

Right! It will be used for hosting a couple of domains and
quite
extensive email service. I was planning to use the second HD
to
replicate data in case of emergency.

What would you advise instead or is there a way to make the
two drives
operate in RAID? I do not know much abaout RAIDs I am
afraid.

Thanks!

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RE: dedicated server specs / 7.0-Release
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-18 13:48:40
> hello,
> 
> 2008/3/18, Christian Zachariasen <chrizachgmail.com>:
> > Depending on what you're doing you might clarify
what you are
> planning on
> > doing with the disks.
> > Are you running them in any form of RAID?
> >
> > In a some cases it might be smarter to go for
"better" drives (made
> for
> > operating 24/7).
> >  That being said, I've often used shitty drives
myself on servers
> that have
> > been up for ages at a time.
> 
> Right! It will be used for hosting a couple of domains
and quite
> extensive email service. I was planning to use the
second HD to
> replicate data in case of emergency.
> 
> What would you advise instead or is there a way to make
the two drives
> operate in RAID? I do not know much abaout RAIDs I am
afraid.

Without a hardware RAID controller card, you can run a
software RAID 1
array.  That is mirroring capabilities.

There is a howto in the FreeBSD handbook on setting up the
RAIDs based
on
the FreeBSD's built in features.

I would strongly suggest that you add more disks for more IO
resources
to
be available if you are going to run a medium sized mail
server.  SAS
disks
will be way much better.

Those extra disks (or faster ones) and two more GB of RAM
will be more
useful if you are going to use a type of SQL database for
your hosts
websites.

Better safe than to be overloaded.

Chris

> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: dedicated server specs / 7.0-Release
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-20 09:16:23
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:38 +0100
"Zbigniew Szalbot" <zszalbotgmail.com> wrote:

> > In a some cases it might be smarter to go for
"better" drives (made for
> > operating 24/7).
> >  That being said, I've often used shitty drives
myself on servers that have
> > been up for ages at a time.  
> 
> Right! It will be used for hosting a couple of domains
and quite
> extensive email service. I was planning to use the
second HD to
> replicate data in case of emergency.

are you getting any kind of out-of-band access to the
server? ie, serial
console, ilo/DRAC card  ?

For certain server use, I would spend $ on that rather than
a hardware RAID
card (but would use software RAID if I cared about the data
in the server...)

if you don't have that, discuss with your DC about what they
can provide in an
emergency - ie, sometimes I've just opened a ticket to get a
console attached
for a few hours (when I setup some extra software RAID and
need to drop to
console, for example), but don't have one attached ALL the
time.

Again, depends on what you want to spend...but it's
important that you think of
those things in advance and know which path to take to
resolve issues that may
arise.

B
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Re: dedicated server specs / 7.0-Release
user name
2008-03-20 11:33:44
Hello,

2008/3/20, Norberto Meijome <freebsdmeijome.net>:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:42:38 +0100
>
> "Zbigniew Szalbot" <zszalbotgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > In a some cases it might be smarter to go for
"better" drives (made for
>  > > operating 24/7).
>  > >  That being said, I've often used shitty
drives myself on servers that have
>  > > been up for ages at a time.
>  >
>  > Right! It will be used for hosting a couple of
domains and quite
>  > extensive email service. I was planning to use
the second HD to
>  > replicate data in case of emergency.
>
>
> are you getting any kind of out-of-band access to the
server? ie, serial
>  console, ilo/DRAC card  ?
>
>  For certain server use, I would spend $ on that rather
than a hardware RAID
>  card (but would use software RAID if I cared about the
data in the server...)
>
>  if you don't have that, discuss with your DC about
what they can provide in an
>  emergency - ie, sometimes I've just opened a ticket to
get a console attached
>  for a few hours (when I setup some extra software RAID
and need to drop to
>  console, for example), but don't have one attached ALL
the time.
>
>  Again, depends on what you want to spend...but it's
important that you think of
>  those things in advance and know which path to take to
resolve issues that may
>  arise.

Right - I am sure they will be able to offer something. They
are not
very big but very flexible. We have been with them for
sometime and
we're happy about their service so that's why we are moving
to a
dedicated service. They would normally offer us a complete
(configured) Fedora to use but I have grown to appreciate
FreeBSD and
don't want to stop using it. So they said they could make an
initial
install for us and then we would be on our own with the
server.

I am thinking now, with two identical drives - at which
point should I
be making gmirror? I have yet reading to do but I am trying
to picture
now where this process fit in? After you install the OS or
while
installing it?

Would serial console mean I would be able to install FBSD
remotely
just as if I was there looking at the screen? Sorry, in many
ways I am
still a very basic user but I want to learn/I need to learn,
I read
this list and save some threads which I think I may at some
point find
helpful. But many thanks for further advice!

All the best,


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