Re: Laptop advice

--- David Kelly <dkellyhiwaay.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe Demeny
> wrote:
> > 
> > In the end, the best advice seems to be indeed to
> take the FreeBSD CD
> > to the brick-and-mortar store...
> 
> Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and have a
> commercially
> supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that would take
> all the "fun" out of
> it?

While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool, I
still find their laptops a bit pricey.  

By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of those
little Asus EEEpc sublaptops?  A real, tiny, i386
laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an
additional SD card to bump the storage some) seems
like a truly awesome deal.  



     
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On March 27, 2008 03:09:42 pm mdh wrote:
> --- David Kelly <dkellyhiwaay.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe
Demeny
> >
> > wrote:
> > > In the end, the best advice seems to be
indeed to
> >
> > take the FreeBSD CD
> >
> > > to the brick-and-mortar store...
> >
> > Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and have
a
> > commercially
> > supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that would
take
> > all the "fun" out of
> > it?
>
> While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool, I
> still find their laptops a bit pricey.
>
> By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of those
> little Asus EEEpc sublaptops?  A real, tiny, i386
> laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an
> additional SD card to bump the storage some) seems
> like a truly awesome deal.
>
>
>
>      
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I bought an Eee PC, but haven't tried any other software on
it yet.  I can 
confirm that the hardware is a bargain, and I used it 'as
is' while 
travelling for ten days, and it connected 'out of the box'
to the wireless 
service provided in each hotel.  A mouse is a great help,
although the 
built-in pad is quite usable.  I had no trouble with the
tiny keyboard, 
except for needing the light on to read the keys.

They are a really great innovation, IMHO.  I am really
pleased with mine.

The wireless card may be the problem with FreeBSD.



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Mike Jeays wrote:
> On March 27, 2008 03:09:42 pm mdh wrote:
>   
>> --- David Kelly <dkellyhiwaay.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe
Demeny
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> In the end, the best advice seems to be
indeed to
>>>>         
>>> take the FreeBSD CD
>>>
>>>       
>>>> to the brick-and-mortar store...
>>>>         
>>> Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and
have a
>>> commercially
>>> supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that would
take
>>> all the "fun" out of
>>> it?
>>>       
I would get ThinkPad T30 or T23 from Ebay. They will work
just fine with 
FreeBSD.
They go for $190-250.

Cheers,
Predrag


>> While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool,
I
>> still find their laptops a bit pricey.
>>
>> By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of
those
>> little Asus EEEpc sublaptops?  A real, tiny, i386
>> laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an
>> additional SD card to bump the storage some) seems
>> like a truly awesome deal.
>>
>>
>>
>>      
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> I bought an Eee PC, but haven't tried any other
software on it yet.  I can 
> confirm that the hardware is a bargain, and I used it
'as is' while 
> travelling for ten days, and it connected 'out of the
box' to the wireless 
> service provided in each hotel.  A mouse is a great
help, although the 
> built-in pad is quite usable.  I had no trouble with
the tiny keyboard, 
> except for needing the light on to read the keys.
>
> They are a really great innovation, IMHO.  I am really
pleased with mine.
>
> The wireless card may be the problem with FreeBSD.
>
>
>
>   

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>>>> 
> I would get ThinkPad T30 or T23 from Ebay. They will
work just fine with 
> FreeBSD.

> They go for $190-250.

my T23 works fine. all devices, no problems, any OS
including FreeBSD of 
course
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People   : I want to bu a laptop , for the time being I
can't go for a high end machine like hp8510b or like those 

But I found in internet , about IBM  Thinkpad T40  
Reconditioned :

So I want  people's valuable advice on Reconditioned machine
;is it safe to have this machine , I want to use FreeBSD on
this machine , what about the reliability of Reconditioned
machines ?: your advices may help me to take a good decision
on my purchase.

thanks in advance
dhanesh


 
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>
> So I want  people's valuable advice on Reconditioned
machine ;is it safe to have this machine , I want to use
FreeBSD on this machine , what about the reliability of
Reconditioned machines ?: your advices may help me to take a
good decision on my purchase.

actually better than new. everything that had to fail,
already failed;)


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Predrag Punosevac writes:

>  ThinkPads are the highest quality machines. I honestly
thing that
>  there is nothing on the market which matches their
quality
>  including Apple laptops.

	/Caveat emptor/.  I'm hearing reports from those who deal
with
laptops much more that I do that quality has dropped
substantially
since Lenovo took over.


				Robert Huff


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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:48:06PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:

> On March 27, 2008 03:09:42 pm mdh wrote:
> > --- David Kelly <dkellyhiwaay.net> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:57PM -0400, Joe
Demeny
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > In the end, the best advice seems to be
indeed to
> > >
> > > take the FreeBSD CD
> > >
> > > > to the brick-and-mortar store...
> > >
> > > Or you could purchase an Apple Mac Book and
have a
> > > commercially
> > > supported Unix pre-installed. Guess that
would take
> > > all the "fun" out of
> > > it?
> >
> > While I like Mac products and OSX is pretty cool,
I
> > still find their laptops a bit pricey.
> >
> > By the by, has anyone tried FreeBSD on one of
those
> > little Asus EEEpc sublaptops?  A real, tiny, i386
> > laptop for $300 (plus maybe a bit more for an
> > additional SD card to bump the storage some)
seems
> > like a truly awesome deal.
> >
> 
> I bought an Eee PC, but haven't tried any other
software on it yet.  I can 
> confirm that the hardware is a bargain, and I used it
'as is' while 
> travelling for ten days, and it connected 'out of the
box' to the wireless 
> service provided in each hotel.  A mouse is a great
help, although the 
> built-in pad is quite usable.  I had no trouble with
the tiny keyboard, 
> except for needing the light on to read the keys.

What!!  You're not a touch typist??!!


A couple of others to look at:

 By HP:    http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revea
led/

 By KJS:   http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=130

 By Dell:  http://www.d
ell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_xt?c=us&a
mp;cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=bundlestab&dgc=ST&a
mp;cid=27096&lid=615901O

 By IBM:  http://shop.lenovo.com/us/landing_pages/thinkpa
d/2008/X300?cid=us|semd|ggl|us_portable_en|t9C4|c&&a
mp;s_kwcid=ContentNetwork|1073231341


I tried out a Kohjinsha in Japan and found that its small
keyboard was 
pretty easy to use as well (I suppose some would have
trouble with its 
size, but I found it fairly comfortable after a few minutes
of getting 
used to it).  It looks about the same physical size as the
EeePC.   It 
is a bit more expensive that the Eee, but it has 80GB/120 GB
disk and 
some more other good features.   The display can be turned
around and 
used like a tablet and there are models with touch screen. I
was 
impressed with the display too.  Even though it was a 7 inch
and not
exceptionally high resolution, it was sharp and very
readable.   There 
is some company that is marketing a version of it with
English language 
WinXP.  I don't know if they put an English language BIOS in
it.  But, I 
find that machine very interesting.  It would fit in my
jacket pocket - my 
major size qualifier.

Some comments and pictures:  http://tec
hnorati.com/photos/tag/kohjinsha

  Japanese website:    http://k
ohjinsha.com/models/sa/lineupsa.html

Of course, Dell and IBM models are more featured, but are
much larger and 
much more expensive.

The HP model is yet to be seen, but looks interesting.

 
////jerry

> 
> They are a really great innovation, IMHO.  I am really
pleased with mine.
> 
> The wireless card may be the problem with FreeBSD.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Jeays
> http://www.jeays.ca
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